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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by chrisarvan » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:45 pm

poshook wrote:I got the email form AA with 15% discount for 2412 compressor which I already purchased with Pink channel strip? So I sould pay another 83 Euro for the same thing just for having smaller GUI and saving more RAM currently occupied by EQ section? :shock:

Ok, it is your business policy but someone starts to get greedy to me...
the 2412 is not in the Pink channel strip. might want to try reading about it.

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by mathias » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:48 pm

this really is another plugin!
it shares the name and parts of the compression character, but has much more to offer in regard to compression.
system 1: windows 8 32 bit - samplitude pro x3, waveform 9 (tracktion), reaper
system 2: mac osx el capitan - reaper(64bit), waveform 9 (64bit), mixbus 6

both systems on: macbook pro (late 2009), core 2 duo 3,06 ghz, 4 gb ram, graphic: nvidia geforce 9600M GT 512 MB

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by be a gorilla » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:49 pm

markgalup wrote:Completely agreed. In such a critical spot such as mixbuss or mastering, output trim is a necessity. I understand that you are considering the code efficiency, but for such a phenomenal endeavor like 7236/2412, you should make an already amazing compressor into a perfect plugin by adding output trim ;)

Thanks for all of your hard work!
agree

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by giancarlo » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:15 pm

This is not pink at all. Give a glance to documentation.


Side note: we have an idea why some of you experience higher cpu loads.
We need to find a solution, this time is not simple. But sooner or later you'll have it. Yes pink 2412 could be more cpu intensive than pink for some of you

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by lubomba » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:44 pm

giancarlo wrote:Side note: we have an idea why some of you experience higher cpu loads.
We need to find a solution, this time is not simple. But sooner or later you'll have it. Yes pink 2412 could be more cpu intensive than pink for some of you
Sorry, don't want to derail this thread to much, but has this to do with the higher cpu load that Mac users are experiencing in general? If so, is there an improvement in sight? thx

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by giancarlo » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:57 pm

Yes, it is possible.
But beware, there is no a promise here. I don't have a timeframe for a possible improvement. We have an idea about what's happening though. It will require a lot of time just for investigating in this direction

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by spacesound » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:13 pm

+1 for output trim

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by giancarlo » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:42 pm

Ok we'll evaluate this.
Apart that... How does it sound this baby?

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by lubomba » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:44 pm

Giancarlo I wrote you on facebook. Didn't know how to contact you directly ;)

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by Dimzo » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:12 pm

giancarlo wrote:Ok we'll evaluate this.
Apart that... How does it sound this baby?
i only played with the 2412 so far and i really like it.
it's very flexible and you can easily shape the sound.
shmod is fantastic and with the sidechain you have a lot of options to forge the sound.

you should have named it sound forge... but wait.. that name is already taken :lol:

i'm seeing myself buying this. great job! 8-)

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by giancarlo » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:19 pm

Thank you!!! I worked so hard on this
Oh yes I used it in the past! Very good editor

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by spacesound » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:23 am

They sound amazing G...purchased!
Only thing I'm really missing is SOLO for each band...doable?

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by kindafishy » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:57 am

Spent some time with the 7236 tonight. I am at the stage of having a song ready to mix, but I haven't done anything yet except for levels and panning. There isn't a single plugin on a single track. Well, okay, some Cupwise PoL but I count that as being part of the instrument. Anyway, this seemed like a great opportunity to see how I could shape the song just with this on the mix bus.

To sum up, this thing is a beast.

So many options, but you managed to keep it very intuitive. Nice job on the UX.

I was about to ask if we could have a button that allows us to solo a band, but I realized we could shut the other two off. Any chance if we ctrl-click the off button on a band, it will turn the other two off, in effect giving us a one click solo?

Makeup gain on each band is also fantastic. Wish it went +/- :). Had to. It needs it, IMO. The main output trim is nice, but it would be nicer if each band had this as well.

This next paragraph really won't matter to anyone since I am describing how I used it on the song, but I'll share anyway :).

I kept the same ratio for each band, but I varied all of the other controls. For the low end, I set the xover to 200, set the tilt so the low lows are triggering compression, set the shmod to around 2.5, set the attack to 10ms and hit it with a GR that peaked at about 3dB. This gave the bottom end a little bit of punchy impact, and in a very tight way. No flabbiness at all. For the mid band, I went with 3ms for attack and left shmod at default. Went with a hard knee here because this is such a sensitive range that I want to react to it really quickly. Just a dB of GR for the most part. I just want to tighten this region and bring it forward a little. For the top end, I set the xover to 6k, and tuned shmod to be 0. Set the knee to medium just because it felt good. I only want to catch errant peaks here, but I don't want to compress. The top end of this song is very open and natural. Perfect as it is, so I want it to remain open like this, but the odd high end peak that takes up some of my headroom needed to be controlled.

I wouldn't use it in a 'real mix' this way because I would be making changes at the track level, but I could see this being extremely useful in a mix for stereo tracks that have a very wide frequency range like drum rooms, overheads, piano, buses that have a lot of different instruments fed into them and that sort of thing. I can hear that it would be excellent for mastering work whether working with bus stems or a stereo mix.

Overall, this product is great. I anticipated that it would be, but it exceeds my expectations in a few ways. It is much more intuitive than I expected it to be. I found it very easy to think of something I wanted to do and translate that to the plugin.

The sound is great. The feel is great. I love the ability to shape the attack. I thought I wouldn't and I thought it would be overwhelming with too much choice, but the opposite happened. I like it more than I thought I would and it is super easy and intuitive to use.

Excellent plugin. I'll be spending more time with it, but the bulk of the remainder of my own personal evaluation will be spent with the 2412.

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by Beatworld » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:49 am

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Re: Pink 7236 & 2412

Post by Beatworld » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:54 am

Just installed the two Trials.

Logic 10.2.3
OSX 10.11.5

Just using both on the stereo bus in a mastering session.
Audio files are 24/44.1

The meters in the 2412 seem weird.
The In meters show virtually no signal at all (occasionally light up -24 but basically show very little input) but the level is quite normal !

The GR meters show no GR at all until I set the Threshold to -38 and to get 3db of GR I have to go to -46.

This is with FBK Type.
Ratio 1.5

In Pro-C2 (which I'm A B testing it with) the threshold is at -14 and there is about 3dB of GR

In FFW Type the first signs of GR are at a threshold of about -30.

It is taking some time for me to get adjusted to it. :shock:


With the 7236 are the only options in the XOVERS the fixed frequencies ?
For example, with the HI XOVER can you only select 12k or 6k, nothing in between ??

And the IN meters in the 7236 are very strange too IMHO.
By reference to the Logic stereo bus meters between about -10 and -6 db of level is going in.

In the Mid band even though the IN meter shows no input the OUT meter is showing up to about -12, BUT there is no make up gain.

More testing....

Cheers

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