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Compressor technology status?

Post by scopus » Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:11 pm

hey its been a while since looked into nebula compression and remember they weren't very good at actual compression with fast stuff, but more for the color. Has the tech evolved to compress as good as hardware yet, if yes which compressors have it? thanks

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Post by Owen » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:43 pm

In general, out of all of the compressors available now, you might like to check out the ones from Cupwise and see if they do what you want.

Not quite sure what you are looking for specifically given your posting. Are you looking for that "instant pumping/super fast slaming" kind of characteristic that some hardware units have?

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Re: Compressor technology status?

Post by cehas » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:09 pm

Well, from what I've understood, it's about the limitations of the tech itself, so it can't be "fixed" or "evolve" (unfortunately).

Correct me if I'm wrong..

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Post by musicgreator » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:35 pm

KultComp and G76 were sampled and programmed in a way which allow ultra fast compression while still reproducing all the little nuances and characteristics of the original hardware. You'll have to load them with a deticated nebula version which is basically a tweaked copy of nebula which is explained in the manual in detail.

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Post by Tim Petherick » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:14 pm

TNT dynamics will be released today. Will not need a modded version of nebula and reacts like the hardware. A announcement will be made later today.

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Post by scopus » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:39 pm

great news tim, cant wait to try it out! and just checked ones recommended like cupwise and yup sounds like were there :)

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Post by Tim Petherick » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:46 pm

Its funny because nothing has changed.I guess just exprimenting to get better results.....

Cupwise's release's are great!

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Post by jeffbdavis » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:15 pm

musicgreator wrote:KultComp and G76 were sampled and programmed in a way which allow ultra fast compression while still reproducing all the little nuances and characteristics of the original hardware. You'll have to load them with a deticated nebula version which is basically a tweaked copy of nebula which is explained in the manual in detail.
Is this possible on the Mac version of Nebula? If not, how can I get the most out of these libraries?

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Post by botus99 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:51 am

jeffbdavis wrote:Is this possible on the Mac version of Nebula? If not, how can I get the most out of these libraries?
I don't own a Mac, but I can say with confidence that it is possible. Basically, you make a second version of Nebula by copy/paste and change a setting in the XML if memory serves me correctly
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Re: Compressor technology status?

Post by lipa » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:18 am

I thought that on macintosh anything is possible.. and easier.. and.. no.. not cheaper. :lol:

Yeah, compressors moved forward a lot since Cupwises` historical Rayphlex. And there are new libraries coming every month. I just checked Tim Pethericks` TNT and it is a great compressor that allows very aggresive compression and few extras (first gate program in nebula!!). So, yeah, it's moving forward as we speak.. (unlike macs.. sorry, couldn't resist :D)

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Re: Compressor technology status?

Post by Gemini Audio » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:35 am

jeffbdavis wrote:
musicgreator wrote:KultComp and G76 were sampled and programmed in a way which allow ultra fast compression while still reproducing all the little nuances and characteristics of the original hardware. You'll have to load them with a deticated nebula version which is basically a tweaked copy of nebula which is explained in the manual in detail.
Is this possible on the Mac version of Nebula? If not, how can I get the most out of these libraries?
I heard you can't copy the Audio Units. So if you are using Audio Units, you could modify the "Nebula 3.xml", since you might not use Nebula 3 otherwise and backup the old Nebula3.xml. Also, you could wrap the VST using FXPansion's wrapper or the free VST to AU wrapper and then create a copy and rename it. The VST, wrapped by FXPansion wrapper, works even better than the native AU.

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Post by jeffbdavis » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:38 pm

Gemini Audio wrote:
jeffbdavis wrote:
musicgreator wrote:KultComp and G76 were sampled and programmed in a way which allow ultra fast compression while still reproducing all the little nuances and characteristics of the original hardware. You'll have to load them with a deticated nebula version which is basically a tweaked copy of nebula which is explained in the manual in detail.
Is this possible on the Mac version of Nebula? If not, how can I get the most out of these libraries?
I heard you can't copy the Audio Units. So if you are using Audio Units, you could modify the "Nebula 3.xml", since you might not use Nebula 3 otherwise and backup the old Nebula3.xml. Also, you could wrap the VST using FXPansion's wrapper or the free VST to AU wrapper and then create a copy and rename it. The VST, wrapped by FXPansion wrapper, works even better than the native AU.
I use the VST version much more than the AU. So, does that mean there's a way to copy the VSTs and make customized instances of Nebula for libraries like this on a mac? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I know it can be done on the Win version but I'd really like to be able to do it. Any Mac users care to chime in?

Interested to hear more about the wrappers too... thx! :D

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Re: Compressor technology status?

Post by Gemini Audio » Wed May 01, 2013 10:06 am

Yes it works. But you have to change one number in the <MAGIC> within the copied xml. For example before "s20c" after "s21c". And then you can wrap it if you need it as an Audio Unit.

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Post by jeffbdavis » Wed May 01, 2013 6:00 pm

Cool, thanks! I need to find out how to do this. A little scary since I've never edited anything Nebula-wise before. Don't want to botch anything up... :lol:

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Re: Compressor technology status?

Post by Gemini Audio » Thu May 02, 2013 8:04 am

Don't worry, just backup these files before you change them.

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