VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by odd » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:36 pm

This was the most relevant thread about the VNXT EMT140 I could find by searching here.

Please let me get it straight: by increasing LFREQD and RATECNV to maximum (full slider range), all is taken care of even when working at 44.1KHz? x

However, I still can't use it on a send without a significant initial delay. I'm using Live 7; automatic delay compensation makes no difference.

Takes forever to load too.

And why are there two FX sliders? The second doesn't seem to do anything.

But it's for sure one of the best reverbs I've heard.

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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by nextaz » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:42 am

hello

1. Read PDF documentation
2. Use "Nebula Reverb"
3. Update Nebula if needed

What computer? Problems in Live only?
Please contact with me directly [email protected]

This program is very heavy for CPU - i know - thats why i offer free demo of regular program with clear PDF about that.

However everything is because of quality - the best what we can have - and probably best in ITB...
Vintage analog reverbs like plate and spring are really hard to digitalize but nebula is really close :)

I will do more testing so maybe there will be some progress with CPU problem (and update) in future but dont know when...

I also highly suggest CUDA for reverbs if You have nvidia card.


Ahh and second FX slider is for distortion kernels - i suggest dont touch this at all.


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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by rrrobo » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:43 am

i have 2 nebula reverbs, one with dsp buffer 1024 and the other about 8192. you need the big buffer to use stuff at 96k but you get the extra latency. you change this setting in the xml file, its mentioned in the forums
Just for information, with the latest version of Nebula you can now change DSP buffer directly in the interface, no need to do it through the XML any more. Maximum is 8192.

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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by Mercado_Negro » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:08 am

IIRC there are problems with buses and automatic delay compensation in Live. I recently read a long thread in KvR where people talked about this (can't find a link right now). This happens in Logic and Live, as far as I know from that thread.
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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by tumburu » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:22 am

Yes, Nebula is not compensated on busses in Logic.

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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by Nooorway » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:40 am

tumburu wrote:Yes, Nebula is not compensated on busses in Logic.
I this true for the au version in Logic 9? I thought Apple had fixed this problem after version 8, or is this a Nebula problem?

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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by enriquesilveti » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:50 pm

L FREQD: This parameter defines the upper bound limit for the FREQD length. It is expressed in seconds. This parameter is used for optimizing the CPU load of slow systems.

http://www.acustica-audio.com/forum/ind ... =viewtopic

L FREQD < Emulation preset Reverb Tail -> Reverb Tail will be truncated = sound bad.

If you want a gate FX reduce H1 FREQD value in KERN page. If you want less tail FX use H1 fade settings in KERN page.
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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by burnsound » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:01 pm

Nooorway wrote:
tumburu wrote:Yes, Nebula is not compensated on busses in Logic.
I this true for the au version in Logic 9? I thought Apple had fixed this problem after version 8, or is this a Nebula problem?
Nebula is compensated in Logic 9 on the busses. For me, at least.

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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by elam » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:03 am

VNXT EMT Sound Bad?.... I got the same experience as most of the users about 44/96 (Nextaz your products are GREAT it's not about the quality at all here it's just technical)

I don't wanna start a new thread but :
With the Psr-202 and RE-501 I had/have some problem(my 1st problem ever with a Neb.program not loading correctly) it's strange ...
The EMT always loaded well, but the 2 programs mentioned above don't.
I created a new "reverb .dll" with Zabukovsky utility in order to tweak it without worrying loosing my previous settings.

Whatever.The only way to use them for me is to never pass above the 1s with the L FREQD (as the user Studiorecording mentioned it) with a RATE CNV of 9000ms.

Last thing :
I have to turn them in Mono-L in the KERN menu???!!!
I realized that graphically in Reaper 32 when I saw the meter pushing way more on the left side ???!!!!
In this mode (Mono-L) the verb seems to be narrower too (but balanced)...

Conclusion : I tweaked them a lot in order to make them work (again not the EMT) but I think I'm loosing of the "character' of them (ie: wideness and tail size).

Does anyone try them and have similar issues/solutions ?

Btw: I really like the PSR-202!(if I ear it as it's supposed to be!!!!.Oh and I'm Reaper 32/Neb 32/quad core/3gig of RAM here.

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Re: VNXT EMT Sound Bad?....

Post by nextaz » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:42 pm

I think i will do psr202 and re501 PRO - one again with new NAT and MYTEK converters - to make them works like really good VNXT reverb:)

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