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Post by cehas » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:11 pm

jpchartrand wrote:I'm still dying to get this MFC!!! I think I'll offer Alex B double the price haha
Go for it, just throw this baby on the master, switch to high TIMED kernel rates when rendering and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

It's hard to imagine that any console could actually sound better than this.

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Post by jpchartrand » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:38 am

I got the console but couldn't get passed authorization :!:

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Post by Jordi » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:51 pm

Hello!
I have a question towards the program PrecisionAnalog Panner. The question is easy to answer if you have clear jijiji. When using this program? Just behind the Console Buss Out or can also be used after the group buss console.

PS: When you put behind the console buss out the audio level drops considerably, I guess that makes up for it with out Nebula

Thanks for the clarification

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Post by jorismak » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:32 am

Depends on the pan LAW, and the pan-law your DAW uses.

Since this is a -3 or -4.5 pan law, that (normally) means that a centered signal get's _lowered_ to compensate. So that if you put a signal only on your left side it will sounds as the same level as being mono.

This can be done by boosting the sides, or lowering the center. This program does it by lowering the center, that's why you notice a level drop by just putting it on in the center position.

For example, the same thing happens in Reaper when you change the default pan-law from 'none' to '-3' or '-4.5'. The center get's dropped.

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Post by Jordi » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:34 pm

Very interesting! Thank you!

So we could say that the Pan -4.5 helps us open our mix towards the sides, giving a greater sense of openness, at least this is what I also noticed, in part, to a decrease of the level. And I work with reaper, you say that probaré PAN. But if you're so kind, that just ¡s used at the output of the Master Buss, right? Do not use in or in subgroups or individual channels, right?

Thank you for the answer

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Post by marcpl » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:31 am

hi,

I think i'm going to buy this on Friday. does alex have direct download after purchase yet? or is it still like the old days where you fill out the purchase form and then wait to hear back from them?

I love alex's libraries but always found his purchasing process very off-putting.

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Post by jorismak » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:52 am

Jordi wrote:So we could say that the Pan -4.5 helps us open our mix towards the sides, giving a greater sense of openness, at least this is what I also noticed, in part, to a decrease of the level. And I work with reaper, you say that probaré PAN. But if you're so kind, that just ¡s used at the output of the Master Buss, right? Do not use in or in subgroups or individual channels, right?
Well, no not really. This basic panning theory. Do know that the 'precision analog panner' AlexB supplies with MFC is a little special analog panner device he created himself and then sampled. Any 'openness' it might give you is probably because of this :).

Basic panning: When you put a signal all the way on the left side, it's only on the right speaker. When you put a signal all the way on the right side, it's only the right speaker. How do you get something in the center? By placing it on both the left and right speakers.
But what happens when you have two signals and you add them together? They get louder!
So without any pan law, a signal that is centered is louder than the same signal on just the left or right side. Consoles had pan laws built in so that this volume differences is compensated. So when something is centered, the volume is lowered to compensate for the fact that it are two signals added together.

Without any pan law, if you start panning something hard left, it would go to the left but also loose in level (and energy). The idea of a pan law is that if you pan something left, you really hear it going to the left without anything else (like level) changing.

Reaper defaults to no pan law after a clean install, but can be changed (in project settings) to be -3, -4.5 or anything you want (boosting the sides or lowering the center), and can be altered per channel (and on the master). It's normal to have the same setting on all channels though! For bus-groups I sometimes change it, but that's it. I know Presonus Studio One 2.6 has a pan law of -3 that can't be changed (and I think cubase will have the same then?). Old N**e desks had -3 while (old) S*L desks had -4.5?

Anyway, don't confuse the effects of pan-law (proper panning without volume loss) with any analog magic the AlexB panner might add :).

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Post by ce1909 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:51 pm

You need to keep the DAW's pan law @0 when using MFC's so
what about using the panner in summing mode?

Can it be used on the buss after the stems have been mixed down using -3 panlaw or won't it translate correctly?

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Post by jpchartrand » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:44 pm

Just wanted to report that I upgraded to the latest version and MFC still doesn't work for me.

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Post by dagovitsj » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:41 pm

@ jpchartrand: did you right click and installed it as an administrator?
Don't know if you're on win7 or Mac, but that's important on win7 to get it to work.
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Post by hwasser » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:38 pm

I like to ask a question about these consoles.

I like to have most of the addictive drums-pieces inside the program itself except the kick and snare, then I send it all to a drumbuss.

To make the S*L sound properly on drums, do I have to input it on every drumpiece or is Kick+Snare+Rest of the drumkit enough?

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Post by richie43 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:50 pm

dagovitsj wrote:@ jpchartrand: did you right click and installed it as an administrator?
Don't know if you're on win7 or Mac, but that's important on win7 to get it to work.
I am on WIn7 and 8 and have never had to install as admin, so I don't know what's up on your system. Also, jpchartrand is on a Mac.
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Post by dagovitsj » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:55 pm

@richie43: Nothing is up with my system, but that is clearly what AlexB recommends in his manual :D

From plage 6 in the manual:
IMPORTANT : remember to run the installer as administrator (otherwise the .ser file will not be generated).
Run the installer and click “Install” then follow the on screen instruction. Alternatively you can copy the files manually.

And that goes for the libs from CDSoundmaster as well, if I remember correctly?!

But if one install the lib manually, putting the vector files in the vector folder and the program files in the programs folder, one can eliminate if this is the problem or other things, I reckon.

Hope you manage to fix it jpchartrand ;)
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Post by richie43 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:57 am

dagovitsj wrote:@richie43: Nothing is up with my system, but that is clearly what AlexB recommends in his manual :D [
Maybe I should read more manuals...... :shock:

But that still seems strange because like I said, I never install software with admin rights and have never had a problem with any Nebula or Aqua plugin generating a ser file. But maybe you are right about the other installation method not needing admin rights, I always copy/paste the n2p and n2v files if they are not "hidden" in an installer. Interesting.....
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Post by marcpl » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:48 pm

just bought it. i was excited to see that there was a direct download after the purchase...but now i wait for an authorization file.

something to look forward to.

regards,
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