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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by Beatworld » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:43 am

What is the real story with the current release of the Eliptical Filter?

It has 80hz 2 times.

Is that frequency really available twice (by mistake) but every frequency above the second 80 Hz is correct, or does it mean that the labelling for each frequency above the first 80hz is wrong ?

Or is it the frequencies below the second 80hz which have incorrect labelling ?

Does the width control really work on the current release?
I can't hear any change from one extreme to the other.

And there seems to be a slight level increase just by engaging it.

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by mathias » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:22 am

Beatworld wrote:What is the real story with the current release of the Eliptical Filter?

It has 80hz 2 times.

Is that frequency really available twice (by mistake) but every frequency above the second 80 Hz is correct, or does it mean that the labelling for each frequency above the first 80hz is wrong ?

Or is it the frequencies below the second 80hz which have incorrect labelling ?

Does the width control really work on the current release?
I can't hear any change from one extreme to the other.

And there seems to be a slight level increase just by engaging it.

Cheers

looks like a simple naming error :)
every step of the freq knob has a measurable change in the crossover. i just checked that here.

until it is fixed, put your favorite freq number in there in your imagination, maybe 93 or 96 or 99 ... :D
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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by Beatworld » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:27 am

mathias wrote: looks like a simple naming error :)
every step of the freq knob has a measurable change in the crossover. i just checked that here.

until it is fixed, put your favorite freq number in there in your imagination, maybe 93 or 96 or 99 ... :D
haha

But which freq(s) shall I use my imagination with ? 8-)
Each one below the second 80, the second 80, each one above the first 80 ?

Get my point ? :) ;)

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by mathias » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:55 am

yes get your point :)

maybe they are all correct and only the second 80 should be 90??

i don't know :D

stedal has to chime in here to clear the mist ... :ugeek:
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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by Beatworld » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:58 am

mathias wrote:yes get your point :)

maybe they are all correct and only the second 80 should be 90??

i don't know :D

stedal has to chime in here to clear the mist ... :ugeek:
Yep I'm thinking you are correct, the second 80 should be 90.
While most of the increases between frequencies are 20hz there are a few that are 10Hz.

It makes sense to have 10Hz increases around the 80 to 100 hz range.

cheers :)

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by onebaldbloke » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:20 am

Apologies for the intrusion, but I can't send a message to support re Coral pre-purchase because I get constant SMTP errors.

Help!
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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by Dimzo » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:03 pm

i'm moving to a new place atm and did not have any time to test Coral Reef before. I wanted to give it a quick trial today before i will dismount my studio.

first impression:
the pres are nice.
i like the elliptical filter very much if used subtle.
the eq... hmm.. i don't know. i think i might need more time with it. i liked the filters and the lows though.
the comp is killer. very effective on transparantly taming transients, i liked that a lot. i would buy the bundle because of the comp only.

great job guys!

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by ngarjuna » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:42 pm

Working my way through the trial now, that is a fabulous EQ.

One small thing (but worth mentioning):
You guys have been putting some serious effort into your manuals and I think that's a great thing, kudos. The one small change I think you need to make to Coral is: you need to add the timings for A/R on the various 'other' compressor models (AQ, Sand, UM). It's true that I *can* refer to the documentation for those other items but a great manual would provide all the info I actually need for the product in question. Between finding the links, accessing the PDFs through Box and scrolling through 800 pages of National Geographic (seriously, my one complaint: these do not need to be works of art they are technical manuals; I think maybe you overdid it in favor of beautiful design) it takes longer to find the info than the author probably intended. I started to make myself a chart on a post it note last night and gave up after the Sand manual crashed in the Box-in-browser-view a few times (the only way I could get the link from GS to open).

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by RJHollins » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:10 pm

I had ask/hoped that the 'Lite' version of the manual would have been just the technical data with only support tech graphics.

Maybe we can have this considered again. The full manual is a 'Work', and a nice concept and compliment, but a streamlined version offers practicality for those just learning about a new product.
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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by giancarlo » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:59 am

This is our characteristic
Anyway not all user manuals are the same, we range a lot
Basically each new manual is a surprise

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by giancarlo » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:01 am

onebaldbloke wrote:Apologies for the intrusion, but I can't send a message to support re Coral pre-purchase because I get constant SMTP errors.

Help!
:-)

Cheers,
Bob.

Are you able to open a ticket?
Otherwise I'll provide an email

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by onebaldbloke » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:13 am

Very weird.
My ticket shows up, including Enrique's reply, in my "ticket" area, but I get SMTP error messages......

Cheers,
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giancarlo wrote:
onebaldbloke wrote:Apologies for the intrusion, but I can't send a message to support re Coral pre-purchase because I get constant SMTP errors.

Help!
:-)

Cheers,
Bob.

Are you able to open a ticket?
Otherwise I'll provide an email
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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by Beatworld » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:21 am

Page 31 of the Coral manual with the chart showing attack and release times is a little confusing.

Up the top above the chart it says this:

DETECTOR: Coral is equipped by with 9 different detectors. This
control allows to select between 9 presets that model the rectifiers
of different hardware devices.
ATTACK: This knob set compressor’s attack time that ranging
from X* ms (fast) to X* ms (slow);
RELEASE: This knob set compressor’s release time that ranging
from X* ms (fast) to X* ms (slow);


So at this point I'm thinking that the RELEASE times are in ms.

Then I look at the chart.
The release times look weird if they really are ms.

For example, C3 is the slowest release time really 1,61ms ?

Then I notice the small print at the top of the chart that says:

Release (s)

Please confirm the Release times are in seconds, not ms.

Thanks.

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by giancarlo » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:32 am

It is a mistake, they are seconds

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Re: Coral - mastering channel strip

Post by RJHollins » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:07 am

Please clarify ...

1,61ms = 1610ms = 1.61 sec

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