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Re: Coral

Post by be a gorilla » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:57 pm

looks like a monster, BEASTIFUL.
please think about an "eq to internal sidechain" routing option

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Re: Coral

Post by Mfc » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:09 am

i was so happy for titanium 2... everytime i hear it should be next, but it doesnt seem to be the case. :roll:

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Re: Coral

Post by giancarlo » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:09 am

Yes, it is reported on the gui

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Re: Coral

Post by be a gorilla » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:22 am

oh ok, looks like 3 routing options:
-eq before comp in serial
-eq before comp in serial with external sidechain to comp
-comp before eq in serial.

i was thinking about : eq to sidechain

will wait and see...will be a beast anyway...or should i say beastS

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Re: Coral

Post by mathias » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:49 am

be a gorilla wrote:oh ok, looks like 3 routing options:
-eq before comp in serial
-eq before comp in serial with external sidechain to comp
-comp before eq in serial.

i was thinking about : eq to sidechain

will wait and see...will be a beast anyway...or should i say beastS
yes, from the pictured routing scheme the second option has to be interpreted as external sidechain as there is a second input.
maybe that's a fault on the gui? for internal sidechain it should have only one input (one line) which then splits up to eq (internal sidechain) and directly to comp (inputsignal).
we will have to wait for further explanation from acustica staff.
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Re: Coral

Post by jfjer379 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:10 am

it looks killer

we Acqua slutz sure like a great gui with the sound to follow :mrgreen:

if this thing sounds as great as it looks it will be amazing

in what ballpark will the price be on Coral ?

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Re: Coral

Post by Mplay » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:10 am

Probably can't resist buying, width control looks very interesting as well

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Re: Coral

Post by HDNebula » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:28 am

The text design is like a SPL passeq, very good choice. It's beautiful.

I'd like know about hardware units, yes isn't an emulation, but still I'm curios.

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Re: Coral

Post by giancarlo » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:56 am

Compared with that hardware, we are simply at the next level
This eq- with this number of frequencies - is highly difficult to build

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Re: Coral

Post by mightymosaic » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:02 am

giancarlo wrote:Compared with that hardware, we are simply at the next level
This eq- with this number of frequencies - is highly difficult to build
price G?

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Re: Coral

Post by theheliosequence » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:36 am

This makes me curious if we'll also one day see a Magenta strip with the Vari-Mu / tube EQ combo?
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Re: Coral

Post by Thierr7 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:58 am

Looks really "Yummy" but i'm worried about the price too :lol:

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Re: Coral

Post by HDNebula » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:20 am

giancarlo wrote:Compared with that hardware, we are simply at the next level
This eq- with this number of frequencies - is highly difficult to build
I only meant that the aspect (text) is similar to spl passeq.
My question about units was more about the compressor because the eq is a custom eq, so you only could upload a picture or something, but we still wouldn't know about it, since is impossible, is a custom eq.

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Re: Coral

Post by giancarlo » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:35 am

equalizer, from the beta forum
SteDal wrote:A short technical note for the geeks among you about the eq in Coral.

The Baxandall Eq is praised for being very gentle and natural sounding, and it gives a minimum amount of phase shift at any setting.
Actually you can easily find Baxandall low and high shelves around (every good old home Hi-Fi stereo set used to have those), but Baxandall mid ("bell") eq's are few and far apart.

There's a practical reason for this. The circuit design is cleverly simple (and this is why it's so transparent), but there's only one way to tune the center frequency and set the right bandwith and gain for the bell section: you must find the exact values (and their ratio) for the two capacitors in the cell.
Moreover, at the extremes of the frequency range you have to manually compensate different parasitic capicitances for each center frequency,etc etc...

In a nutshell, it's highly unpractical to build a hardware version of a Baxandall bell eq, even more so if many frequencies are needed.
And this is exactly the field where Acqua technology shines, by making practical and usable something that would be a pain in the proverbial if built in real silicon and wire.
At the same time, the sonic imprint of the design is accurately preserved.

The best of both worlds...

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Re: Coral

Post by giancarlo » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:40 am

compressor: yes it is "inspired".
Said that, the compressor is completely at a different level.
We can add a true "sand", "aquamarine" or "ultramarine" detector in the chain, not an emulation based on a rectifier based on just different diode/capacitors pairs.
On a real fchild there is a lot more than the "rectifier" alone.
Our C1-C6 rectifiers are "inspired" to their pairs, but with a different order (which is more logical to us). Attack and releases are sorted by values, so C1 is the shortest one and C6 is the longest one. Also Sand, Aquamarine and Ultramarine are sorted and inserted in the same scale. So Aquamarine is the fastest pair, while C6 is the slower pair.
Also: aquamarine and ultramarine detectors are now fully core9, with an anti-steady technique and a full-speed vectorial section.
This thing sounds unbelievably.

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