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Post by himhui » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:40 am

Honestly, I've never heard of such great M\S effect on plugin format!!
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Post by giancarlo » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:17 pm

himhui wrote:Honestly, I've never heard of such great M\S effect on plugin format!!
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Post by cjperez » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:45 pm

Man Giancarlo, now you got me excited... Going to download trial now
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Re: Ultramarine (mid/side vintage compressor)

Post by Mauri » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:54 pm

Hi,

Repeat of the same old story, trying to authorize Ultramarine I get the same error I get every time I try to authorize one of acustica's products, 'This not a valid file' etc.

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Post by Support » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:02 pm

Mauri wrote:Hi,

Repeat of the same old story, trying to authorize Ultramarine I get the same error I get every time I try to authorize one of acustica's products, 'This not a valid file' etc.

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You are talking about upload your computer ID (*.SER file). We tried to reproduce this issue but we couldn't. Seems to happen when you are trying to upload a file from a protected/crypted path.
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Re: Ultramarine (mid/side vintage compressor)

Post by Mauri » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:11 pm

Hi,

I have the .ser file on my desktop, is that a "protected/crypted path"?

This is how I have authorized other products without any problem.

Thanks,

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Post by mtalavera » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:43 pm

Mauri wrote:Hi,

I have the .ser file on my desktop, is that a "protected/crypted path"?

This is how I have authorized other products without any problem.

Thanks,

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What browser are you using? I always get that error each time I use Internet Explorer. I have Mozilla Firefox installed just for the purpose of authorizing my Acoustica products. Firefox works every time where IE does not.

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Post by ctechdx » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:41 pm

Wooooow man!!! The ultramarine is absolutelly brutal!!!!! You barely touch the knobs and it react like a wild horse!!!! Exactly the feeling when using a powerfull analog hardware! I did compare with some emulation from other companies... and man... they are 100% bullshit! lol Compared to ultramarine those plugins are doing nothing. :lol:

You guys are awesome! I can´t even call this a plugin... this is a piece of gear! Congratulations!

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Post by kindafishy » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:16 pm

giancarlo, is the full version of the product dual mono only, or is that just a limitation of the trial version?

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Post by giancarlo » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:31 pm

kindafishy wrote:giancarlo, is the full version of the product dual mono only, or is that just a limitation of the trial version?
dual mono but with a control-link control

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Post by Support » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:35 pm

giancarlo wrote:ok, just forecasting the future, the trail version should be out today, otherwise tomorrow.

Please note:

1) test the trial version as soon as it is out. "Try before buy". We'll not accept refunds just because you "don't like it".

2) trial version does not feature the "control link" feature. So you cannot link knobs for tuning left and righ channel easily. Commercial versione will feature it. It is a "green" control, similar to a control located on the original device

3) There will not be a "stereo link", like in most of legacy versions. It is a dual mono compressor.

4) keep in mind conventions coming from old times: LAT is not side but it is the MID channel. VERT is the SIDE. So as usually, left channel is the MID/mono control, and right channel is the SIDE/stereo control

5) time control is also program dependant, high values are based on a "dual capacitor" envelope follower.

6) user manual for trial version is just a quick guide.

7) trial version will NOT be compatible with commercial version. Do NOT use on important project, BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!! IT EXPIRES AFTER 10 DAYS AND WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING.

8) there will be a "live" commercial version, so a zero latency release

9) the POWER button does NOT turn off the device BUT the preamp. Anyway even if you disable it completely you'll see magnitudo response is not flat. So you are just disabling a bit of harmonic distortion coming from input transformers

10) preamp is located as input module. It is sensible to input trim. The sound is amazing. You can tune loud harmonics if you need them.

11) the original device is a 40000 eur device, well serviced. The sound is incredible. It is clean but it can be dirty. CPU is not ligh so TRY BEFORE BUY.

12) aliasing is pretty good. You can test it. Lowest settings for time constant are a BIT faster than the original device, like we did for aquamarine/murano. We decided to improve it a bit, but not so much. This device is not for mastering, so there is no any need for a long look-ahead,which would turn it to a different thing. We like the original tone. Look ahead is just 2 milliseconds for lowest setting, and it is disabled quite immediatly.

13) final price is 299 eur. Anyway this time we'll feature an incredible discount for the trial period, 20%. Considering the technology, the price of the target gear, and the unique sound of this device AND the release of a contextual trial version so you can test it before buying I would say it is a fair price.

14) time constant affects both release and attack times

15) disposition of gui elements is a bit revolutionary compared with emulations coming from other developers. This IS are revolutionary device. Just to be clear, first releases for betatesters had the CLASSIC disposition of gui elements. We decided to make a product with a different gui, we LIKE it. So do NOT ask to me a different skin, if you want a different skin buy a product from an other developer. This is Acustica.
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Re: Ultramarine (mid/side vintage compressor)

Post by ctechdx » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:40 pm

Guys, i´m testing this a lot... I tryed on many diferent sources like, bass, kick, snare, drum bus, acustic guitar, voices and even at the stereo bus... and it does sound amazing on every track! It adds some color, warmth and presence that I did never heard before on digital domain. The tridimentional feeling is amazing. Indeed it´s a bit heavy for cpu... I had to render this in some tracks to be able to hear it working in a full mix... but wow the mix completely changed... 200% enhaced!! :lol:

The bass sustain with ultramarine is just beautiful.

Have no words to describe how good that sound! Just have to say thanks to all team of acustica audio!

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Post by enriquesilveti » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:17 pm

ctechdx wrote:Guys, i´m testing this a lot... I tryed on many diferent sources like, bass, kick, snare, drum bus, acustic guitar, voices and even at the stereo bus... and it does sound amazing on every track! It adds some color, warmth and presence that I did never heard before on digital domain. The tridimentional feeling is amazing. Indeed it´s a bit heavy for cpu... I had to render this in some tracks to be able to hear it working in a full mix... but wow the mix completely changed... 200% enhaced!! :lol:

The bass sustain with ultramarine is just beautiful.

Have no words to describe how good that sound! Just have to say thanks to all team of acustica audio!
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Re: Ultramarine (mid/side vintage compressor)

Post by Mauri » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:49 pm

mtalavera wrote:
Mauri wrote:Hi,

I have the .ser file on my desktop, is that a "protected/crypted path"?

This is how I have authorized other products without any problem.

Thanks,

Mauri.
What browser are you using? I always get that error each time I use Internet Explorer. I have Mozilla Firefox installed just for the purpose of authorizing my Acoustica products. Firefox works every time where IE does not.
Yeah, it worked with firefox! I tried that once previously but it didn't.

Hungry beast isn't it, on my machine I might be able to run maybe four instances on top of the plugs I already use.
I'm not sure I can afford to sacrifice that much processing on any plugin. I wonder if the full, 'non live' version is as hungry?

P.S. I just built a new machine, check out the specs below...


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Re: Ultramarine (mid/side vintage compressor)

Post by giancarlo » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:41 pm

answered on gearslutz, maybe it is interesting:
Or lower the price way down, example 60$ (or lower than that) and make a group BUY of first 200 or 250 (even 150 peeps) people who'll join the group buy and voila. Like that you offer a great product to a large mass and developers get's to make more money in a less time period and users are happy to have paid a very reasonable price for a quality plugin. I think group buys should come back. Imagine 200 people x 60$ = do the math

Or looking back at Klanghlem amaaaazing quality product (including his latest master piece MJUC) if he would have done a Group BUY ayyyyyy caraaaaamba ;-)

Just a thought :-)
Point taken, here my thoughts.
Differently from other developers, we have literally dozens of thousands of models(skinned and not skinned,lately also nebula libraries are skinned like acqua plugs and it will be a common thing in Nebula4). Price ranges from free to few $ to hundreds of $. Most of presets are free or almost free.

I was planning a cheaper approach. But I changed my mind for the following reasons:


- having so many choices, we can evaluate a product very well. If something else is better we can use it. And this product is in our opinion (acustica side) damn good. Some beta reported it is one of the best m/s software around. This enforces our sensations and feelings about it

- when you have something like that there no reason for making it as much cheap as everything else you did in the past. It would lead to a sort of confusion. When everything is equally priced everything looses its value. Are other developers decreasing prices? good. We did it already. They are late to the party. Now we have so many things we can decide what has a value *for us*

- it was sampled for a rare and expensive device, well serviced. It would be a lacking of respect for something rare and unique. You don't find something like that in every recording studio.

- I understand the algo approach from other developers is very effective, sometimes better than our one, sometimes they are even closer, sometimes not. This is life. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. But: can they take in account geometry of the components, interferences, general tone in the way we are doing? because at the end of the day we have a sort of monopoly in this kind of tech/approach. I understand we cannot nail all possible devices, but ALL our models have a particular tone, each one is different from all other ones already released by ourselves. Exactly like in the hardware world. You can get in a crowded mix a good tone using an other alternative? good for you. Nothing new, it happens in the real world very often. If you play an expensive Stradivari in a crowded mix you'll never distinguish it from a sampled EW patch. Good for you. It does not mean the Stradivari violin is a nonsense and you can save your money ALWAYS.

- we have a lot of cheaper alternatives. You can build incredible compressors merging other cheap or free things produced in the past. But you will not get this "ultramarine". Ultramarine is more like an expensive bottle of wine. If you merge good wines you don't have a "brunello".

My 2 cents

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