Well yes, obviously people with more experience and better equipment have the potential to get better results, that much is common sense.Owen wrote:If by commercial developers, you mean, people who:lordnielson wrote:Have Nat rescources been tilted in favour of commercial developers ?
a) Have a better than average grasp on recording principles and the properties of analogue equipment and the dynamic properties of real world audio systems
b) Have spent a lot of time playing with the tool and have had some input into its development
c) Also have access to high quality dacs/equipment to compare and experiment and have an intention of selling presets
You'd probably be barking up the right tree.
I believe personally that the tooling is:
Complicated enough that it's not like a microwave oven for most applications i.e. you hit the defrost button and at some point your chicken is adequetely defrosted (but even with modern appliances, it takes some common sense approach to understand what "Defrost" means when examining your food afterwards right?)
Significantly different from most other applications given the wide range of possible, potential applications
Close to a paint by numbers system in certain cases, but only if you understand the context of certain paradigms and use the templates as a starting point. Some tasks are more of a "doodle" than others
Correct. The tooling/templates are not perfect as is for all possible permutations of every type of capture. I might also add that such a statement is not analogous to "it's full of flaws" either.CDSoundMaster wrote:there are some things that still require fine tuning
I'll leave CDSM to answer his own statements......
But what about the so-called Platinum package? I have been a Nebula user (and pretty involved in several Nebula forums and communities) for a while now and the first I ever heard of this was in a thread this week; so honestly, I have no idea what this is. Is it the equivalent of an SDK? Is it a different version of Nat? Is it priced in such a way that it only really makes sense to commercial developers? These are honest questions, like I said I have no info on any such product or how to buy it or why I would even want to (in my case, as a non-developer, I'm guessing I probably wouldn't). Is the actual functionality different or is Platinum more like a licensing platform for selling libraries?
The issue of the fine tuning is, to me, the biggest mystery about NAT. Every developer has alluded to the fact that the programs were really close after a good NAT session but still required some significant "tweaking" to get them the rest of the way. What does this mean, exactly? Maybe the third party developers won't want to share secrets like this (although CDSoundmaster doesn't seem to be holding anything back, typical of his helpfulness in answering questions for the community) but it seems to be the big difference between programs that are "almost there" and programs that "are all the way there".
Even without spilling a detailed, step by step process document, what is meant by "tweaking the programs"? I think that information would be a big help to amateur developers.
I do agree with you that none of these questions suggest that NAT is flawed or broken; it's a knowledge gap. If Nebula didn't have a tool and a dedicated community based on sampling our gear this knowledge gap wouldn't really be much of an issue. But for perfectionists who want their non-commercial programs to be the very best they can be, it could seem like information is being withheld (I don't think that's really what's happening but I can see how someone might think that).
Personally, I see closing that knowledge gap as being a benefit to everyone, commercial and non-commercial developers alike; and that is translated directly into a benefit to the user base. I believe this dual-channel approach to third party programs is ideal; surely there are some products and projects that are better suited to one style than the other. Which is why I'm so appreciative when people like CDSoundmaster go to such lengths to share their information, that really is huge.