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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by AlexB » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:04 pm

tumburu wrote:... what was in their heads when they did that?
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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by sfunk » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:12 am

Waves and the noise was hilarious. Although CDSoundmaster did suggest that a little of his tape hiss programs could be beneficial.

Anyway tried this crosstalk plug. Not doing it for me.

Anyway back to the topic!

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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by cdsoundmaster » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:46 pm

Hi! :-)
ACtually, I don't recommend adding the hiss back in from the hiss-tory programs for everyday use. I thought it would be nice to share as a part of the personality if anyone wanted/needed to add this in for authenticity, but I don't suggest it as a normal everyday process or required. I like the fact we can use the dynamics, spectrum, and harmonics and eliminate the hiss. It is amazing, in the R2R scenario, how our ears put the entire tape sound back together when the machine's actual noise floor is returned, but the fact that Nebula removes this element makes our modern version of tape the perfect scenario. My thought was first just the nostalgia, and second if there was a particular scenario if someone actually wanted or needed to emulate the full effect- it is there.

And, to apologize for furthering the change in topic, AlexB Consoles and EQ's are AWESOME! Definitely Modern use of technology. Absolutely Logical to use them. The best Consoles. And totally Pro Pro Pro! :-)
sfunk wrote:Waves and the noise was hilarious. Although CDSoundmaster did suggest that a little of his tape hiss programs could be beneficial.

Anyway tried this crosstalk plug. Not doing it for me.

Anyway back to the topic!

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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by DavidMeShow » Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:15 pm

Hi guys! :) This is my first message on the forum. I need to know who is using the MLC SRN program (send-return) on the Modern Logic Console. I don't know why but when I add it, something wrong happens to my sound, somekind of unwanted compression is added (Many db lost). Thanks for your feedback! :P


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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by giancarlo » Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:20 pm

are you following the -18dB rule? those consoles are calibrated at -18 dB, it means your input level should not be louder than -18dB rms. You could increase the signal again later.

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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by DavidMeShow » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:04 pm

Oh! Yes you're right! :o I will have to keep an eye on this "new" -18db rms rule. Thanks! :D


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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by giancarlo » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:13 pm

well, each developer has a different rule, but it seems like this -18 dB one is growing as a standard in nebula. Just a brief explanation
analog 0 dB = nebula input -18 dB

so you was working at around + 18 dB on the real console and it was adding weird compression. In this region nebula is not emulating things perfectly too so I suggest to not overload inputs.

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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by DavidMeShow » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:21 pm

That sounds perfect to me now! :) Thanks!


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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by DavidMeShow » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:52 pm

Finally, the problem is still there even with an input volume lower than -18 db rms. I'm at -28 db rms at the input of Nebula and i hear even more the weird effect (using the send-return program).

Dry : http://www.davidmeshow.com/download/MLC_SRN_dry.wav

Wet : http://www.davidmeshow.com/download/MLC_SRN_wet.wav

Does someone who is using the Modern Logic Console can tell me what is wrong with my Send-Return program?

All the rest sounds perfect!


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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by tumburu » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:52 pm

If you're not working at 96kHz make sure you set the conversion as stated in the manual (me and several others just move the slider up to the max - 9000).

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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by DavidMeShow » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:05 pm

Same problem at RATE CNV 9000 ms. :? Thanks for your help!


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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by Mplay » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:25 pm

After changing rate_cnv, you have to press save, close Nebula and then open Nebula again for the settings to take effect. Hope this helps

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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by DavidMeShow » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:36 pm

Thanks but same problem again... I don't understand because all the other programs sounds perfect but the MLC SRN program makes this weird compression effect. :?
I'm using the MTC SRN and it sounds great.


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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by fuseburn » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:14 am

DavidMeShow, I'm getting the exact same issue, but with a totally different program - in my case the CDSoundmaster Cooltec Preamp Program "ALL" sounds exactly like what I'm hearing in your examples. So this is nebula-specific, not library-specific. It IS gain-dependant though, so definitely try lowering the input until it disappears.

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Re: AlexB - Modern Logic Console PRO and Modern Logic EQ PRO

Post by lordnielson » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:11 pm

fuseburn wrote:DavidMeShow, I'm getting the exact same issue, but with a totally different program - in my case the CDSoundmaster Cooltec Preamp Program "ALL" sounds exactly like what I'm hearing in your examples. So this is nebula-specific, not library-specific. It IS gain-dependant though, so definitely try lowering the input until it disappears.

Did you download the fix Michael posted for that issue ?

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