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Post by Henry Olonga » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:41 pm

Hi everyone - I am back home now. Will crawl through the site to see who hasn't yet downloaded their files or anyone who posted or has e-mailed with issues. If you don't get in touch I shall asssume you got your links. If you didn't please send me an e-mail to sales at nebulapresets.com. Sincere apologies for anyone inconvenienced by this bug on my site. Thanks for your patience.

Hi Yllet,

The volume dip is present on most presets but I have explained it earlier in my Titan thread. It's a calibration thing and allows for headroom while trying to allow for internal processing without clipping. Just adjust using the input fader and as you push the level and it gets to the input limit it adds subtle distortion. Peaks at -6 db are ideal with my presets. This is so you can push your peaks into the 'virtual digital red' where the distortion lies and still come out around about 0 dbfs. Never a perfect science or calbration but that is how I have worked it out. Many record at -12 db I understand but my calibration is tied to the nebula input fader which offers 6 db gain.

I think you are seeing my imprecise stereo level matching during recording. I improved it in the libraries after the the first as I deliberatley level matched after the fact. I may do an update in the future to address the issue. It exists in the Buzzard library as well. Quick cure is to make the presets work in mono. Go into the kern page and adjust to work the presets in mono instead of stereo and it will be perfect.But you lose the right channel and it's subtle differences which make the stereo recordings sound more non predictive.

I sampled the tape sim a while back so this is my fuzzy memory. I sampled it with different bias settings and constant input levels. Just pushed into the red - a little. The bias settings are Lo ( normal - but it's too long a word for Nebula). This is the 12 o'clock position of the bias knob. Med - medium - 3 o'clock. HI - High is the 5 o'clock position maybe.

The library load issue is about right. Nothing odd there. It may slow workflow down but once you know your way around my libraries it becomes less and issue I hope .
Yllet wrote:* Just ordered "tape 1" and tried on a project. I really like it, Though the volume seems btw 3-6db lower depending on preset. (Im always working in 24/44.1 so Nebula have to resample for me. Sounds good to me anyway :))

* When loading the presets on mono or stereo channels (Reaper 32) using Nebula reverb the output gets a little panned, depending on preset, some more than other, everything from 1-8% or something like that? Mostly 15/30ips

* Lo, mid and hi is how hard you have driven the tapes right? So Lo is cleaner than hi (that is much darker ofc)

* And one more thing: You said it takes time to load the presets? Well it takes like 1-2 seconds for me, something wrong here? I'm on i5 2500k and 8gb ram.

thanks for a nice tapesound.

/Jon

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Re: Henry Olonga releases many new products!!!

Post by Yllet » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:56 pm

h-man wrote:Hi everyone - I am back home now. Will crawl through the site to see who hasn't yet downloaded their files or anyone who posted or has e-mailed with issues. If you don't get in touch I shall asssume you got your links. If you didn't please send me an e-mail to sales at nebulapresets.com. Sincere apologies for anyone inconvenienced by this bug on my site. Thanks for your patience.

Hi Yllet,

The volume dip is present on most presets but I have explained it earlier in my Titan thread. It's a calibration thing and allows for headroom while trying to allow for internal processing without clipping. Just adjust using the input fader and as you push the level and it gets to the input limit it adds subtle distortion. Peaks at -6 db are ideal with my presets. This is so you can push your peaks into the 'virtual digital red' where the distortion lies and still come out around about 0 dbfs. Never a perfect science or calbration but that is how I have worked it out. Many record at -12 db I understand but my calibration is tied to the nebula input fader which offers 6 db gain.

I think you are seeing my imprecise stereo level matching during recording. I improved it in the libraries after the the first as I deliberatley level matched after the fact. I may do an update in the future to address the issue. It exists in the Buzzard library as well. Quick cure is to make the presets work in mono. Go into the kern page and adjust to work the presets in mono instead of stereo and it will be perfect.But you lose the right channel and it's subtle differences which make the stereo recordings sound more non predictive.

I sampled the tape sim a while back so this is my fuzzy memory. I sampled it with different bias settings and constant input levels. Just pushed into the red - a little. The bias settings are Lo ( normal - but it's too long a word for Nebula). This is the 12 o'clock position of the bias knob. Med - medium - 3 o'clock. HI - High is the 5 o'clock position maybe.

The library load issue is about right. Nothing odd there. It may slow workflow down but once you know your way around my libraries it becomes less and issue I hope .
Yllet wrote:* Just ordered "tape 1" and tried on a project. I really like it, Though the volume seems btw 3-6db lower depending on preset. (Im always working in 24/44.1 so Nebula have to resample for me. Sounds good to me anyway :))

* When loading the presets on mono or stereo channels (Reaper 32) using Nebula reverb the output gets a little panned, depending on preset, some more than other, everything from 1-8% or something like that? Mostly 15/30ips

* Lo, mid and hi is how hard you have driven the tapes right? So Lo is cleaner than hi (that is much darker ofc)

* And one more thing: You said it takes time to load the presets? Well it takes like 1-2 seconds for me, something wrong here? I'm on i5 2500k and 8gb ram.

thanks for a nice tapesound.

/Jon
Aha I nice tnx for explaning. I have to re-render the tracks then ;) I changed the output of nebula to around +4db since I didnt wanna "clip the plug". So I need to change the input instead?! Thanks for clearing that out :)

/Jon

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Post by Henry Olonga » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:05 pm

By pushing the input fader you can still clip the output of course so lower the output volume if the nebula over light turns on. It all depends on the input level of your track really. Michael Angel of CDsoundmaster has released a very useful nebula library for dealing with level discrepancies - and it's for free!!! I would go over to the thread and download it.( it is here in the third party section ) It may help you in this situation where you are attempting to gain stage and don't want to mess too much with the faders. You should always keep an eye on that over light however..... :D

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Post by Yllet » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:09 pm

h-man wrote:By pushing the input fader you can still clip the output of course so lower the output volume if the nebula over light turns on. It all depends on the input level of your track really. Michael Angel of CDsoundmaster has released a very useful nebula library for dealing with level discrepancies - and it's for free!!! I would go over to the thread and download it.( it is here in the third party section ) It may help you in this situation where you are attempting to gain stage and don't want to mess too much with the faders. You should always keep an eye on that over light however..... :D
Im not even close to yellow when driving the input +6, i better need that gain stage thingy then right? ;)

It all depens on the source ofc, but should you aim for yellow/red light on your presets? Would be hard with a shaker ;)

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Post by Henry Olonga » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:21 pm

Imagine it is a virtual box that behaves somehwat like hardware. Sometimes with real hardware you might need to turn the input up to get a box to react a certain way and correspondingly turn the output level down before going into the next part of the chain. Sometimes the goodness is usually in that last few dbs. :D . Experiment to taste. Not all my presets give this to you. Titan gives more than enough - too much sometimes actually. I have been surprised at how much distortion came through as I originally thought it didn't have much but in use I have been surprised. Way before the limits of the presets.

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Post by Yllet » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:27 pm

h-man wrote:Imagine it is a virtual box that behaves somehwat like hardware. Sometimes with real hardware you might need to turn the input up to get a box to react a certain way and correspondingly turn the output level down before going into the next part of the chain. Sometimes the goodness is usually in that last few dbs. :D . Experiment to taste. Not all my presets give this to you. Titan gives more than enough - too much sometimes actually. I have been surprised at how much distortion came through as I originally thought it didn't have much but in use I have been surprised. Way before the limits of the presets.
Yeah, hovering around -12 db peaks in the "green area" seems like the sweetspot (for me). Tried some different settings with the "Level" but when driven too hard it compresses the audio too much for subtle coloration, that I'm after when bouncing to tape...

So back to the stereo problem... When inserting tape 1 30ips on the mixbus the whole mix shifts to the right 9-10% i can actually hear the kick and snare get away from the center. This can't be right can it? I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with my nebula? But other programs works so... maybe not.

If I pan the mixbus about 9% to the left it "feels" right, but this can't be good now can it? I wanna use the plugin in stereo too, and not mono when running on the mixbus...

Any help ? ;)

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Post by Owen » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:47 pm

Yllet,

Just to prove what's going on, you could do some phase analysis. Setup two sets of channels with the snare, and look at what a phase/goniometer seems to suggest is going on with and without a Nebula instance processing it. This might help us compare what's going on with how Henry is expecting the preset to behave.

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Post by Yllet » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:27 pm

Well I feel like jerk know, but when loading the tape presets my kernel was set to mono-L, when swiching to stereo all is fine!

Sry my bad :(

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Post by Henry Olonga » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:53 pm

Hi guys, ;)

The units were sampled in stereo so that opens up the door to stereo shift issues if one is not spot on. At sampling time there are lots of changing parameters and if I am not precise ( or am forgetful ) then one track may be slightly louder than the other resulting in a stereo image shift after deconvolving. If I forget to adjust for this at editing time, then what you get is what you are describing.

So I will put my hand up and say that it is obviously an error on my part but not a deal breaker as you can set that troublesome preset or presets to work in mono as I described earlier. Please not that Nebula still works in Stereo mode but the information is only taken from the left channel and aplied to both left and right. For those who missed it - go into the kern page and make sure that above the save button that STEREO is showing . If MONO-L is showing then click it to turn the setting to stereo and then save. This means that the Nebula is actually working in mono although it seems counter intuitive. You press the button to determine the setting that is showing.[/b]
Again - the future will see an update to this as I complete the inventory and begin to fix things but no promises on time frame. It depends on a number of projects on the go. It will of course be a free update. :D
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Post by Mplay » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:43 pm

Glad you're fixing this, will be appriciated. Take your time of course, I know those cricket matches take all day :D

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Post by Henry Olonga » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:23 pm

Almost there with the tape sim guys.

Henry Olonga releases Tape sim VOL 5 and 6 .Machine 3, TAPE 1 and 2, 192 khz ( Fifth and sixth pack of 8 ) More to come………..
Based on an analog tape sim. The last few in a series of 8 focused on getting you that authentic tape vibe so hard to get in th box.

http://www.nebulapresets.com/?product=h ... -5-192-khz

http://www.nebulapresets.com/?product=h ... -6-192-khz

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Post by lipa » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:46 am

Yeah!! Henry is back and kicking with new tapes! Already checking out from store :D along with some vocal presets.. I've got a question here - is the summo lib a preset for putting only one instance on master or should I use it on all tracks? have a good day to all ;)

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Post by Henry Olonga » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:59 am

Hey Lipa,
You can use it however you like of course. The summing mixer is used to add a touch of colour and the cohesiveness that an analog summed master gives with the usual NV transformer magic. It will be similiar in character to the NV DI except that it is perhaps perceptively brighter IMHO and it is also a stereo sampling that has the subtle width knob sampled as well.

Piano, in fact all keys should benefit. Maybe stuff like stereo backing vocals. Drums, whatever.

I guess the beauty of nebula is that you can take programs beyond their traditional purposes and order them as you wish. For the purist I guess I would suggest that you use the NV Preamps and DIs as inputs and the summo on the master bus, according to their purposes. But whats the fun in that. Whatever works

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Post by lipa » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:58 am

Hey H-man, a thread away from here there was suggested You could do a massive passive redo.. and You said You keep away from parametric eqs for a while.. so maybe You could look at some more summing stuff? I'd love to see the fat bustard from thermionic culture done.. ;) it's a summing box with plenty of nice distortion and a few special knobs for hi/lo shelves (i guess), attitude and drive..and some widening too if i remember. should be just enough for a decent neb library 8-) some time ago i tried to make an inception to AlexB.. he didn't confirm nothing so far ;)

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Post by lipa » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:02 am

...it could be split onto different modules, only we need to know the order of chain.. - channel in, eq, widening, bass to mono, attitude-drive, out buss.. ;)

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