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The GLOBE or N-TEN-AT4 console

Post by geedy » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:58 pm

After reding through forum after forum the console of choice has been "The Globe" because its stated that this console handles low-end information like no other.. Im not sure which console this emulates but i do know that the N-TEN-AT4 is a Newer N**e console emulation but i cant seem to find to much information about it except that it is just as good as "The Globe" but no specific reasons why.. (maybe becuase its so new?) i need opinions on this... :/ I would buy both but it wont be in my budget.. :/

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Post by ngarjuna » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:29 pm

I don't own N-TEN-AT4 so I can't give you much of a comparison but the Globe absolutely does handle low end info like none of the other consoles. It was sampled from a Sphere Eclipse desk.

I do have a warning about the Globe which is that it's a bit more colored than some of the other consoles even using the disengaged EQ programs. That's not necessarily a bad thing and, like all of the console programs, the color is not going to make or break a mix.

This thread might be as close to an apples to apples comparison as you're going to get of the Globe to some other consoles. It's less than ideal in a number of ways but it should give you a rough idea at the very least.

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Post by marcpinol » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:17 pm

As far as I know, N-TEN-AT4 is an EQ console channel strip. It probably does some kind of console behaviour if you put it on every channel, but is a totally different beast from Globe (well, that's what I think!).

In my humble opinion, the Globe kicks ass. I would like to have some other options, like Alex B does (mix bus channel, FX send channel, drums bus channel, etc), but I really dig the sound anyway. As ngarjuna said, it gives some obvious color to the sound, but the "enhancing" of bass frequencies is just amazing.

I really want to buy N-TEN-AT4, but I don't know which console is the best one to make a realistic behaviour of the complete chain (some kind of Nebula creepy thing, to try realistic chains in your mixes). Maybe Modern White Console? I say this because it's a N**e too, even though not the same model at all...

EDIT: After taking a look to N-TEN-AT4 it is indeed a console, so excuse my ignorance :-)

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Post by richie43 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:00 pm

I do think that the N-10 is not a complete console package, more like EQ an inputs. There are no buss presets, for instance. I do own it, and use it quite a bit, but more for the eq's and input color. But the MWC and the VBC (I think), both Alex B, are N**e emu's of different kinds. And they all sound awesome.
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Post by Mercado_Negro » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:36 pm

What type of music you're planning to use that on? The best basses I've heard here were treated with the MLC or CLC (but I mostly work on hip-hop/R&B stuff... and when I mix a latin rhythm like Salsa or Merengue nothing beats the VBC).
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Post by geedy » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:55 pm

Mercado_Negro wrote:What type of music you're planning to use that on? The best basses I've heard here were treated with the MLC or CLC (but I mostly work on hip-hop/R&B stuff... and when I mix a latin rhythm like Salsa or Merengue nothing beats the VBC).
Yea i actually do hip hop and r&b as well and the VBC is a N**e emulation so you see thats why i am intrested in the N-TEN-AT4... But as you also can tell no one has given this console the light of day to give a good opinion on it.. But in the type of music we do you know that low end information is dominate and all praises go to THE GLOBE!!! Also the AT4 has an option to send the signal the strip with the console eq engage but with a flat response and being one of the latest additions to the whole console market i know that it must have been sampled very well.. :idea: :shock:

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Post by marcpinol » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:00 pm

richie43 wrote:I do think that the N-10 is not a complete console package, more like EQ an inputs. There are no buss presets, for instance. I do own it, and use it quite a bit, but more for the eq's and input color. But the MWC and the VBC (I think), both Alex B, are N**e emu's of different kinds. And they all sound awesome.
Yeah, maybe the MVC (wich I don't own yet, but I was thinking about) is a perfect combo for N-TEN-A4. Now that we are talking about music styles, I usually do old school house and disco, mainly (think about 1977-1986 stuff). I love to enhance the bass frequencies, sure (Globe does this like a beast), but I am really into maintain the nuance of a very natural sound, like those old dance records. Makes the MVC a good combination with N-TEN-A4, then?

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Post by geedy » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:36 am

marcpinol wrote:
richie43 wrote:I do think that the N-10 is not a complete console package, more like EQ an inputs. There are no buss presets, for instance. I do own it, and use it quite a bit, but more for the eq's and input color. But the MWC and the VBC (I think), both Alex B, are N**e emu's of different kinds. And they all sound awesome.
Yeah, maybe the MVC (wich I don't own yet, but I was thinking about) is a perfect combo for N-TEN-A4. Now that we are talking about music styles, I usually do old school house and disco, mainly (think about 1977-1986 stuff). I love to enhance the bass frequencies, sure (Globe does this like a beast), but I am really into maintain the nuance of a very natural sound, like those old dance records. Makes the MVC a good combination with N-TEN-A4, then?
See even he has the same question... STILL NO ANSWERS OR OPINIONS!!! No one bought this console? Is it too new? :evil:

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Post by richie43 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:56 am

Do you mean MWC, not MVC? Are you asking if anyone owns the N-10? It is not too new, I do own the N-10. I was just saying that I don't consider it a full console preset, I use it for the eq's and maybe input coloration. But I do love the MWC for smoother and thicker N**e style, and the VBC has an awesome character as well. For me the Globe has been more useful for lush and low end/complex stuff, even for jazz and classical. R&B finds me leaning in CLC or MLC..... they all sound great.
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Post by cdsoundmaster » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:09 pm

Hi Geedy,
Thanks for asking about these! :-)
I'm not sure if you got the answer to your question.
The N-TEN-AT4 has been out for a while, and it is an original vintage british console. The difference between the N-TEN collection and The Globe is that the N-TEN-AT4 is a channel strip/eq with all settings from a single channel from the console. It can be used for the purpose of an eq or it can be used also just as a channel preamp.

The Globe is a collection of a classic vintage console's channels and mains etc, with the eq circuity turned on and off, but it is not an eq collection. If you are looking for a single ideal console for use in mixes, and not looking for a flexible vintage eq, then I personally think the Globe is the prettiest sounding board I have heard, and I like it on every style of music. There are situations where I would choose the N-TEN if using both. Also, the Q8 is from the same family and lineage as the Globe, and is what I consider the ideal eq from that heritage, so if you liked the Globe and wanted to add the best version of its eq into the chain, the Q8 is a perfect choice.

So, if just looking for setting up the DAW like a console without flexible eq, the Globe is hard to beat. But, N-TEN gets that job done as well and is primarily used for its vintage eq. They both have unique qualities to the sound.

I hope that helps answer things a little.
geedy wrote:After reding through forum after forum the console of choice has been "The Globe" because its stated that this console handles low-end information like no other.. Im not sure which console this emulates but i do know that the N-TEN-AT4 is a Newer N**e console emulation but i cant seem to find to much information about it except that it is just as good as "The Globe" but no specific reasons why.. (maybe becuase its so new?) i need opinions on this... :/ I would buy both but it wont be in my budget.. :/

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Post by marcpinol » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:57 pm

Thanks a lot to everyone. You are great people, guys. I am learning a lot since I'm in this forum, more than any other forum out there.

By the way, when I was saying MVC (which doesn't exists!) I was talking about Vintage Blue Console from Alex B, which maybe is a great addendum to N-TEN-A4 EQ/pres because is an old N**e console too. Isn't it? Or I am wrong?

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Post by richie43 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:52 pm

marcpinol wrote:Thanks a lot to everyone. You are great people, guys. I am learning a lot since I'm in this forum, more than any other forum out there.

By the way, when I was saying MVC (which doesn't exists!) I was talking about Vintage Blue Console from Alex B, which maybe is a great addendum to N-TEN-A4 EQ/pres because is an old N**e console too. Isn't it? Or I am wrong?
You are correct, and that is also an awesome console library.
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Post by richie43 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:56 pm

If I forgot to mention..... The Globe, while not being the N**e you are asking about, IS an extremely nice sounding library. I usually use the word "gorgeous" to describe it.
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Post by geedy » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:14 pm

CDSOUNDMASTER HAS ANSWERED MY PRAYERS!!! Thanks alot for that informative post.. So now I can get to the nitty gritty... HYBRID CONSOLE!!! I want to know the specifics becuse it is well known that N**e handles vocals like no other.. Rhythm and vocals are the two most important things in any recording, everything else follows these two things to bring depth into are recording... simply because the low ed can be felt therefore bringing the "feeling" of the track and our ears are trained to vocals so they are the hardest to place in a mix because even consumers can instantly tell when vocals sound "unnatural" which is not necessarily true for other instruments...

So i know that certain eqs and consoles "specialize" in certain frequencie ranges.. like a low, mid, and high frequecie ranges.. ranging from pultecs to neves to apis.. but i dont know wbat the combination to this lock is? :cry:

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Re: The GLOBE or N-TEN-AT4 console

Post by richie43 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:26 pm

I think the best combination is making a decision and making the best music that you can! :P And I mean that as encouragement, not as an insult. I used to torment myself and after I had most of my tracks to a project, I would process them through various Nebula combinations, trying to find that elusive "best" chain. What I found was that they all sounded "best", just different! As another forum poster here told me, they don't feel that song has ever turned out great OR terrible solely because of which console it was recorded on, what sample rate/bit depth was used, dithered or not.... you get where this is going. Grab a few good libraries and start using them in your music. No matter what you use, you will use them to enhance the music. And as you get deeper into this whole Nebula thing, you will find yourself slowly accumulating more libraries.... whether or not you THINK you can afford them! (I still miss my first-born, but I REALLY wanted to get the Vintage Tubes from CDSM...)
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