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Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by glaca » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:52 am

Hi everyone,

Looking to get Nebula 1176 compressor. Mainly for All Buttons mode for aggressive vocals, bass and drums sometimes.
What are your favorite libraries/options and why ? Till now I was using UAD to get this tone and compression.

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Re: Best Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by SWANG » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:21 am

no "bests" from me; only favorites. tim petherick's u76 library is mine. i suspect others will give you the same answer. i don't particularly favor the sound of the 1176, but when necessary, i've used tim's both normally (on horns) and in parallel (on drums). i was happy with its aggressiveness and crunchiness.
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Re: Best Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by glaca » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:30 am

Thanks for the answer. I was thinking about checking Tim P's library. Favorite is the right word :) in this case.
SWANG wrote:no "bests" from me; only favorites. tim petherick's u76 library is mine. i suspect others will give you the same answer. i don't particularly favor the sound of the 1176, but when necessary, i've used tim's in both normally on horns and in parallel on drums. i was happy with its aggressiveness and crunchiness.

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by SWANG » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:13 am

i suspect you won't be disappointed. on the other hand, you mentioned that you have used the uad emulation. lots of folks are happy using henry olonga's "mojo" in conjunction with it. michael at cdsoundmaster has a similar library as well. experiment a bit, and see what you think. :)

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by glaca » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:27 am

That's how I use it. I was wondering how much closer to "real" thing I'll get with proper library. I never used hardware. So I've got no point of reference.
SWANG wrote:i suspect you won't be disappointed. on the other hand, you mentioned that you have used the uad emulation. lots of folks are happy using henry olonga's "mojo" in conjunction with it. experiment a bit, and see what you think. :)

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by SWANG » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:43 am

^enjoy...

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by sfabs » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:59 am

I say Tim P U76 as well.

I have never used a 1176 (hardware)

But I watched a couple of "how to use" videos on the hardware 1176 and techniques used on vocals and drums including all buttons.

I was amazed how applying the same settings in the videos appeared to do the same thing (compress and distortion wise) on Tim's U76!!

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by glaca » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:20 pm

Well it's the best way/all buttons/ to "naturally" distort vocals without using hmm distortion that I know. With my rather aggressive voice it works great. I really wonder if Tim's 1176 could do it better. Guess it leaves me with an option to get it though :)
sfabs wrote:I say Tim P U76 as well.

I have never used a 1176 (hardware)

But I watched a couple of "how to use" videos on the hardware 1176 and techniques used on vocals and drums including all buttons.

I was amazed how applying the same settings in the videos appeared to do the same thing (compress and distortion wise) on Tim's U76!!

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by plexus » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:39 am

SWANG wrote:... folks are happy using henry olonga's "mojo" ...
This is the kind of Nebula comment you definitely need to have context for. :roll:

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by SWANG » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:12 pm

^i'm afraid i'm not following you.

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by emilieitor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:25 am

Glaca, the best is the Alessandro Boschi 1176 Nebula library, ok?. It have 3 1176 versions and stereo presets. Signaltonoize 1176 is rubbish and the Tim Petherick eat so much CPU and is less versatile and more dificult to fit in the mix context.

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by botus99 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:14 pm

TimP's u76 less versatile than the other 76 libraries? Man, I couldn't disagree more! The hpf sidechain and different GR modes make it the one to beat IMO.

I don't use AlexB's 76D for dynamics anymore since getting u76, but the 3 different 76 preamp flavors are great.

I have other 76 libraries, but Tim's and Alex's are my standard 76 emulators for now.
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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by bmanic » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:47 pm

I've never found any of AlexB's compressor to be at all accurate. I never purchase them for accuracy's sake. I treat them as completely unique pieces of gear instead. For instance the N54 and N64 programs are completely inaccurate. Not even in the same ballpark compression wise as the real deal (yes, I've used the real models).

There are some major issues in how he constructs the programs and thus loses a lot of actual accuracy. There's huge bass buildup in many of his programs because the bass frequencies are never compressed in the same manner as on the real hardware. Tim Petherick has a great blog post about these problems that happen when you do "simple sampling" the oldstyle NAT way. You can hear these exact problems in many of Alex's programs. I've notified him of these issues in the past but he never replied so he is not interested in accuracy of the compression action it seems. He is more into "tone" and "mojo", which is fine by me.

Hence I always check his demo programs to see how the compression action is and I never base my purchase on compression accuracy as it's not even close most of the time. Instead I treat it as a unique tool on it's own merits.

In the case of AlexB's 76D program, you CAN edit the program to be much more accurate by setting kernels to TIMED and setting the global rate to fastest possible (and remove any smoothing). The downside of this is that it instantly consumes ridiculous amounts of CPU. :)

Tim Petherick on the other hand is going the extra mile (much more so than any other Nebula program provider) to get accurate results.

TL;DR: If compression accuracy is what you are going for, get Tim P's programs or edit AlexB's programs accordingly (doesn't fix the bass issues though on some of his programs like the N54 and N64)
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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by prosodio » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:32 pm

I have always though that Alex consoles and eq´s are best of nebula world, still do....

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Re: Favorite Nebula 1176 Compressor

Post by bmanic » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:29 am

Indeed, those are excellent.
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