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CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:52 pm
by cdsoundmaster
Hi everyone,

I am pleased to present the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console, bringing you an original first generation "80" series "N" mixing desk, circa 1970, based upon the original Wessex A88.

Please visit the product page for full details, manual, visualization graphs, and enjoy a free full-quality program for commercial Nebula Pro (use reverb instance for accurate response):

http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/cds-softw ... E-Neb.html

CDS Customers- you have received a direct link to your $10 discount via email. Please email me at [email protected] if you need your discount link or did not receive an email.

Thanks so much and God Bless You!
Michael
CDS

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:55 pm
by THAPRODUCERZ
My gear is all packed up, so I have to ask, does this have apparent color character or is it subtle?

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:11 pm
by cdsoundmaster
Hi there-
The answer is both!
It is subtle but it is what I expect to see from this series of early 70's N**e, where the inductors cause a recognizable curve in the 16-25kHz range, but flattens out more when the eq circuit is not engaged.

There is a very distinguishable affect of the harmonic content, which is slightly more when eq is engaged, slightly more cumulative when hitting the buss stage, and slightly more pronounced using mic instead of eq.

I recommend the visualization graphs to see what I mean:
http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/cds-softw ... raphs.html

Again- it is all "flat" enough that it is in fact subtle, as it is a reliable usable console, but the additive affect across a mix is that classic velvet-like warmth of N**e. It is not overt saturation like driving tape or unintentionally overdriving a console input, but the day-to-day recognizable sound of the classic.

Also of note- this is an extremely rare console, not a modern iteration of the eq section- like rackmount 500 series eq or modern AMS 1073 preamp channel, but two separate channel paths from the original 70's generation- before 1081 and 1084 modules. Makes an awesome complement to the N-TEN-AT4 channel strip :-)

I hope this helps, and when you are unpacked, enjoy the free program as well! :-)
THAPRODUCERZ wrote:My gear is all packed up, so I have to ask, does this have apparent color character or is it subtle?

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:23 am
by THAPRODUCERZ
I need not try the free version, I will grab the full library. Thanks!

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:26 am
by THAPRODUCERZ
Done.

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:51 am
by ceemusic
Congrats on the release Michael.
I've been working with it all day, sounds great; clean open vibe, 3d & punch.

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:17 pm
by jfjer379
what would be interesting to me is how this compares to the N14
i have no clue if this will be more useful than the N14 to me
what would the differences be ?

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:41 pm
by SWANG
^demo available...

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:57 am
by cdsoundmaster
THAPRODUCERZ wrote:Done.
!!!
:-)

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:02 am
by jfjer379
SWANG wrote:^demo available...
do you mean a full demo where i can try the whole console ? im not seeing that a pre and some small parts of it is enough to evaluate it compared to a full console hehe

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:20 am
by cdsoundmaster
The N-TEN-AT4?

The N-TEN-AT4 is a single channel from its console with fully dynamic eq, where the 7T3 is a 'console' collection, with line and mic ins, buss and mains, all fixed dynamic spectrum and harmonic distortion, not dynamic control of eq.

Line and mic are with eq in and out, and two separate channels to give variation.

Difference of sound and character- very very similar. The 1084 comes from a few years later but still very, very similar. The first iteration of the console used a prototype eq that is not available in any other design. The first eq that was repeated in another design is the '7T3'...1073. It is a simpler circuit but almost identical in eq character. The 1084 is a tiny bit smoother, slightly wider slope on eq, but preamps have extremely similar shape with and without the eq circuit (same famous rounded slope in the extreme highs).

[email protected] wrote:what would be interesting to me is how this compares to the N14
i have no clue if this will be more useful than the N14 to me
what would the differences be ?

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:22 am
by cdsoundmaster
Thank you so much!
I'm looking forward to spending some real music time with it!
It's amazing how you start to hear everything in "N**e" after a few days of processing! :-)
ceemusic wrote:Congrats on the release Michael.
I've been working with it all day, sounds great; clean open vibe, 3d & punch.

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 3:17 pm
by jfjer379
no i meant how it compares to alex b N14
whats the difference, are they close or very different ? :)

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 10:02 pm
by babiuk
Well I don´t know how close they could be, but both Alex and Michael are great developers and sometimes (like about pultec) they sample different units of same gear, but:

1 - the units are not exactly the same, because is impossible for even two brand new units to be 100% the same and because along the years the components have been living different lives or even maybe any components could have been restored.

2 - the hand of the developer is not the same, both being golden hands. The idea of how the sound must be can differ from one developer to another. Both have good sonic goals but different tastes.

So I think the two "consoles" will be very N**eish but maybe with different characters. I tried both pultecs and this is true for them

I am not a pro but it could be useful any comment from any expert here about it.

Re: CDS releases the N-10-7T3 Classic British Console !!!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:49 pm
by cdsoundmaster
Very well stated, Babiuk.
Alex does an excellent job with his work.
This is a fairly clean, but early- original board for the 7T3 console and the eq, but I still sampled to push the harmonics to get the response I like. It is slightly cleaner than the consoles that I used for the NTEN-AT4 which makes me happy, but even those two have a bigger variation between the, than I believe between the two 73 between Alex and myself.
Truly every channel even brand new AMS out of the box have small variations, but more so- the most important aspect to me is the difference between eq in vs eq out. On a single console channel- the eq imposes a nice subtle change in shape and harmonics. It is characteristic of other consoles as well but each different also bc of the relationship between the inductors and the input transformer, and input level.

If one has the money to do so, I recommend Alex 73 along with mine, and even more with the 1084 channel and his 1081 (I believe that is the one Alex did). All from the same year range and style range but with nice subtle differences.
babiuk wrote:Well I don´t know how close they could be, but both Alex and Michael are great developers and sometimes (like about pultec) they sample different units of same gear, but:

1 - the units are not exactly the same, because is impossible for even two brand new units to be 100% the same and because along the years the components have been living different lives or even maybe any components could have been restored.

2 - the hand of the developer is not the same, both being golden hands. The idea of how the sound must be can differ from one developer to another. Both have good sonic goals but different tastes.

So I think the two "consoles" will be very N**eish but maybe with different characters. I tried both pultecs and this is true for them

I am not a pro but it could be useful any comment from any expert here about it.