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Post by RJHollins » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:51 pm

I was looking through old threads, and decided that a new clean thread would minimize confusion [particularly during the early beta testing time frame].

This thread will be for General News that apply to the NVC series and the http://www.upallnite.us site.

on to the News ;)

I now have 3 controllers posted. I am transitioning file storage from my DropBox to 'on-site'. I have the demos transfered, but I'm seeing a strange thing with the filenames when downloading :o The filenames are showing as a string of numbers with no extension.
Temporarily, I've posted a note to RENAME the file after download. I've tested this, and it works ... but why this is happening ... tech support has not given me a good answer or solution yet :evil: so ... still working to fix that.

2. the filename 'snag' got in the way of getting the PayPal stuff going ... that is next.

3. I've posted a small utility plugin. It is a MIDI CHANNEL Filter [VST] - free.

Simply, it allows MIDI data to pass on the selected channel. Setting it to 0 puts it in OMNI mode ... passing all 16 channels.

This small plug is what I used in 'METAPlugin' chainer to isolate each Nebula to listen to a specific channel. Hopefully this is useful.

that's it for the moment!
thanks
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Post by RJHollins » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:06 am

... it's like a cat and mouse game :roll:

Got the very latest METAPlugin downloaded and installed ... something changed ... it broke the selector for the MIDI CHANNEL Filter :evil:

sooooo .... I just FIXED it ... and have updated the website with the new file :D

Grab it again ... it's small.
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Post by RJHollins » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:55 pm

Today ... yet another update to the METAPlugin. :o

Hope to check it tonite.
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Post by koda » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:44 pm

- did you consider teaming up with some good gfx designer (like for example http://www.houseofwhitetie.com/ or the guy here designing interfaces). it may seem marginal but a good attractive GUI really seems to make the difference (maybe for the same reason we usually like beautiful girls and not ugly ones EVEN if we all know beauty is not what really matters)

- the website needs a big restyle. Now I'm really busy but when I'm free I will be glad to help you on that (for free of course)

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Post by RJHollins » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:55 pm

Thanks koda!

Well ... trying to get on the AA site and post has been excruciating ... looking forward to improvements!

Meanwhile ...

For those not of the REAPER persuasion, I have been testing things in a chainer called 'Plogue Bidule'.

First ... since upgrading Nebula server to [almost] the latest version, things are much more stable within Bidule.

I've put together a complete chain that has been solid.

One thing that was missing was a clean way to bypass a Nebula in the chain. [Bidule has a MIDI Channel filter included, which is handy, but I wanted a way to bypass any Nebula straight from the NVC.

Expanding on my own utility channel filter, I have added a bypass audio feature. This is MORE than just a disconnect feature [which causes major audio disruption and can peak out the meters] ... no ... this special feature transitions gently as any, or ALL Nebulas are placed into bypass.

It works so well that I'll be looking to incorporate this idea into the AGC unit special for the NVC-AIR controller.

When the AA site gets more usable, I'll post more details and info.

Hopefully I can get THIS message to post.
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Post by RJHollins » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:54 pm

update news ...

I have built FXChains in both METAPlugin and Bidule that have been working really nice.

Using these 'chainers' has eliminated the need for any special REAPER support plugins too. This also helps with DAWs with limited FX slots.

I have built a special 'support' VST that is used as an 'interlink' in the routing chain that does the MIDI CHANNEL filtering AND also handles the BYPASS routing. Works great.
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Post by RJHollins » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:59 am

A new version of the 'MIDI Channel Filter and Audio Router' has been posted on site.

http://www.upallnite.us/

Called: MCF-AR.rar

Extract and drop this into your VST folder.

Let me know if this works better ...

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Post by RJHollins » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:24 am

minor update news ... :)

Because I do a lot of experimenting of ideas and concepts for the NVC's, I found that I sometimes need to temporarily disable the MIDI communication between the NVC and the list of NEBULA's.

So ... to make things easier, I've added a MIDI disable button to all controllers. Again ... maybe not something needed often, but there have been those times in my experiments :o were this has been a good feature :lol:

Another 'minor' change ... since not ever module gets used or assigned a NEB preset, I wanted a subtle visual cue that a module is in INIT mode. Sure ... I could just read the pull-down menu ... but in the heat of the moment ... who has time to read :roll: However, a thinly colored line under the menu can be easily spotted AND not be a visual distraction. So ... only when a module is at INIT preset, a subtle indicator reveals itself.

Since I rarely ever need to look at any of the NEBULA instances, it easy to see which one should be bypass completely out of the audio chain before rendering. I'm sure that even the INIT has a better sound and some algos :lol: but I like to keep the chain lean ;)

I promise to start uploading the newer versions ... and try to do something with the mess of a web site, and all the other stuff ... but I been digging in using the MAMMOTH library. The ability to switch kernel modes while still maintaining my EQ settings has been fantastic. This is a beast of an equalizer. I looks so simple and basic, just like the POOLTEC ... but with the NVC's I can try things I just could not easily do before ... with purpose. These are really amazing EQ's ... in fact, I'm finding this to be true of each of these NVC controlled libraries. :mrgreen:

So my apologies ... with my newly built Mastering room and all these 'toys' ... I hope you understand :lol:

8-) 8-) 8-)
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Post by garyk_123 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:16 pm

RJ I for one am grateful for your dedication, so no need to apologise for working flat out! As far as I'm concerned, you're developing Nebula 4 - analogue sound with analogue workflow. You need both to work the magic, and you're delivering. Keep up the good work and thanks!

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Post by jpchartrand » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:41 pm

Any chance for a Mac 64 bit version? :D

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Post by RJHollins » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:52 pm

Thanks for the comments ! :)

I now remember WHY I wanted to add that 'Dis-able MIDI' button ...

Adding an NVC to a project that started without !

If you have a project with NEbula already in the chain, we'd want to transfer the Neb eq parameters that you set into the NVC controller.

With the 'MIDI Dis-Abled' ... you can make changes to the NVC and NOT have it talk to any of your NEBs until you are ready for it to [otherwise the Neb settings would change]. Once you match your settings, then activating MIDI [push button] the NVC is now at the helm.

Just one of those little conveniences to ease the transition. 8-)
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Post by RJHollins » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:41 pm

update:

The NVC-Mammoth has been updated to version 0.50, and is now available for download.

* each sub-module has visible status and control of bypass and EQ IN/OUT.

* MIDI active/dis-able added to manually take the NVC MIDI offline.

* INIT indicator. If a module is still in INIT preset, there is a thin line indicator to help quickly see the status.

* some minor GUI changes [colors] to help the ole eye balls :geek:

* the 'frequency range' displayed in each module now shows the correct values [range].

* a bit of code house-keeping :)

check it out ... let me know what cha think !
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Post by RJHollins » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:28 am

Wiring up BIDULE ... or METAPlugin for that matter.

Here is a partial screenshot of BIDULE showing an example of the patchbay wiring that I use.
Bidule screenshot-1.jpg
Bidule example-1
Notice that I have Klanghelm's VU meter in-line to handle 'Gain Staging' control between each Nebula. I also started using Bidule's DUMMY components to help keep the wiring easier to follow.

I've highlighted the MCF-AR utility VST [free on my site] that handles the channel filtering and audio routing for By-pass.

BTW ... this bypass is NOT just a straight disconnect, which usually causes a nasty spike to the system ... this is a gentle transition. :mrgreen:

One nice feature with Bidule ... once you have a layout ... you can use the REPLACE feature to switch out to a different Nebula library [keeping the wiring mostly in place. This makes setting up Bidule presets for all the controllers I have very easy.

... back to work 8-)
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Post by koda » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:49 am

I didn't understand if gain staging between all the nebula istances in your NVC controllers is auto handled.
I mean... I can set the IN volume, but then what happens when I start to boost one EQ band? all the other bands will have an increase in input volume or there is some kind of auto-gain-staging between the istances?
I saw something you showed off for that purpose but I didn't understand well if its auto or what.
Thanks for the patience

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Post by RJHollins » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:25 am

koda wrote:I didn't understand if gain staging between all the nebula istances in your NVC controllers is auto handled.
I mean... I can set the IN volume, but then what happens when I start to boost one EQ band? all the other bands will have an increase in input volume or there is some kind of auto-gain-staging between the istances?
I saw something you showed off for that purpose but I didn't understand well if its auto or what.
Thanks for the patience
Hi koda,

Balancing out the Gain staging through a list of plugins [or Nebulas] is fundamental to getting the BEST sonics.

Every change in Eq gain and/or frequency can have a level impact through the rest of the chain.

Although it is not an automatic [AGC] function, the built-in CAL used in every NVC is based on a old-school technique. It provides good accuracy AND, very important, is fast to re-balance [a few seconds].

I use the Klanghelm VU plugin [also FreeG], but the Klang is proving to be the best VST meters I've found to date ... highly recommend ! Holding the CNTRL key and the mouse wheel provides fine adjusts to a 1/10th of a dB.

It is the ONLY time I open a Bidule or Metaplugin chain.

As mindful of gain structure that I've been, I can honestly say that this CAL system has been a huge work-flow improvement ... AND ... hard to believe that AFTER doing a re-balance ... the track sounds even better :shock:

If I could figure an 'auto-majic' way to do it ... I'd try ... but for now, this current system blows away the way I worked before ... well, using the NVC as the central controller has totally changed my Nebula work-flow, and more importantly ... the end results :o

I encourage everyone to try the DEMO ... because I dis-like raving about anything I've worked on :roll: [and youse guys probably tired of hearing me say it] :lol:

To a related controller ... the NVC-AIR.

Yes ... this library [in current state] has major gain changes in the preset ... if I recall, some presets added more than +12dB of gain to the signal output. I was trying to constantly balance this out to make comparisons and sense of what I heard ... couldn't do it.

Because the NVC-AIR only needs 2 Nebulas to provide full function, I developed a special module that responds to MIDI commands sent from the NVC-AIR ... it is basically a VCA module that can adjust levels in real-time.

With the new CAL function, I've created a 'gain compensation' MAP in the NVC-AIR that is user definable ... but the way I have it currently 'balanced' is working very well.

I've been holding off the release of this controller because I want to bring the new MFC-AR design into this AGC plugin.

The new MFC-AR is both a channel filter [we need to isolate each Nebula] and it provides a very smooth transition when by-passing. The current AGC unit also has smoothing ... but the MFC-AR is even better :D

I am still bound to the MIDI limits of the current NEBULA ... I hope this capability expands as Nebula develops. This would open many new possibilities!

hope this help clarify a bit 8-)
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