Noooooo sad day for Nebula world..[solved]

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Post by cps418 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:49 pm

mightymosaic wrote:So go support the devs all you can and wherever you can, spread the word about how cool this platform can be. Contact devs and offer to write reviews for other forums. Talk to your audio peers and clients. Do write-ups on your own websites and/or blogs about libraries you have just used on some project. Post something on FACEBOOK. We need to do what we can to bring Nebula out of the elite niche market and more into the use of the public, I think.

Ok rant over. I just think that Nebula is one of the coolest and most liberating tools for digital audio, at least for me. I want it's development to continue and not vanish like so many other good ideas in the arts and technology markets. Cheers!
Funny I just read a post elsewhere about liquidmix, and one thing that was said was "without upgrades or any real advancements that would spell the end of something like liquidmix, neb, or U.A.D." for that matter. Nebula has been a vintage emulator for so long, but how many eqs,or comps do you need. Two years ago this forum was really hopping, we had fun debates, new products every week,but now it's become a ghost town.I for one have my main tracking- mixing setup and that's what it's going to stay. My mastering setup, is set in stone, and my tracks come hot. So buying presets just because the hardware cost 4,000, I'm pretty much done with that. In fact I've actually found that since i have cut back on buying, and trying everything that cost 4,000, I now have mastered where I'm going, and what I need to get there.

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Post by richie43 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:18 pm

Indeed. Support doesn't necessarily mean by purchasing only. Talk about it. Write about it. Check out the other thread I started for this.......
http://www.acustica-audio.com/phpBB3/vi ... 264#p60264

I think that people can benefit by some collective think-tank style forum activity.
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cps418 wrote:Indeed. Support doesn't necessarily mean by purchasing only. Talk about it. Write about it. Check out the other thread I started for this.......
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=27468&p=60264#p60264

I think that people can benefit by some collective thin-tank style forum activity.
IT does become a hard sell since I have seenn people support neb to the end on different forums, and I still see people respond with (1) they don't hear the difference, (2) it does not look pretty, and (3) the cpu usage. What makes "waves" and other companies succeed is they are selling to the younger generation. So eyecandy means so much, ease of use means so much, (cut copy paste reel to reel is our era not theirs') and all the vintage gear emulation that we praise, they do not. (or they pretend like they value it but only the gui).

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Post by richie43 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:10 pm

cps418 wrote: IT does become a hard sell since I have seenn people support neb to the end on different forums, and I still see people respond with (1) they don't hear the difference, (2) it does not look pretty, and (3) the cpu usage. What makes "waves" and other companies succeed is they are selling to the younger generation. So eyecandy means so much, ease of use means so much, (cut copy paste reel to reel is our era not theirs') and all the vintage gear emulation that we praise, they do not. (or they pretend like they value it but only the gui).
Of course you are right about the importance of pretty gui's to many people. But in the big picture if a tool does not deliver good quality results, then people will eventually quit using it (or their music will suck...ha ha). That's why it's a good idea to help people get over that gui lust and use their ears more.
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Post by cps418 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:22 pm

cps418 wrote:Of course you are right about the importance of pretty gui's to many people. But in the big picture if a tool does not deliver good quality results, then people will eventually quit using it (or their music will suck...ha ha). That's why it's a good idea to help people get over that gui lust and use their ears more.
News flash richie the music already sucks, but over these years we just learned to live with the pain. So convincing the masses that all those platinum hits suck is "a hard sell" and that is why nebula remains a "black ops forum".

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Post by richie43 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:21 pm

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cps418 wrote:Of course you are right about the importance of pretty gui's to many people. But in the big picture if a tool does not deliver good quality results, then people will eventually quit using it (or their music will suck...ha ha). That's why it's a good idea to help people get over that gui lust and use their ears more.
News flash richie the music already sucks, but over these years we just learned to live with the pain. So convincing the masses that all those platinum hits suck is "a hard sell" and that is why nebula remains a "black ops forum".
Maybe so. And if you want to live with that, that's your choice. But I am choosing to do what I can to let people know that this technology exists, it can be very exciting to learn about and use, and audio can be deep and intricate with overtones, harmonic distortion, and that elusive (almost hate to use the word) "mojo". If this is a "black ops forum", then maybe more of us need to be "inviting" people to check it out by writing about it, talking about it with our peers and clients, and reminding people that music doesn't need to suck. On that note though....... I am not even necessarily talking about the makers of platinum hits anyway. Most of the music out there is NOT the platinum hits; that section of the music biz is a fairy tale and consists of a very small percentage of the actual working artists (and support staff) that move the actual music machine forward. I am addressing the rest of the industry, who continue to work and try to improve their products quality and awareness.
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Post by cps418 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:37 am

very good richie

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Post by Henry Olonga » Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:41 pm

:cry:
So sad to see this. These guys were at the forefront of this amazing trip.

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Post by Cupwise » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:21 am

yeah, i remember checking nebula-programs.com regularly to see what cool stuff might pop up. i still get frequent use from mammoth and the tube console bundle, and i'm sure all their stuff has the same great quality. it is sad news :(

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Post by vicnestE » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:03 pm

Sad news...
Analog In The Box will always be remembered.

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Post by Tim Petherick » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:07 pm

Indeed it's sad ,

The first library I ever bought was mammoth.

First time I Used it was on a master , I was blown away...

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Post by marcpl » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:25 am

+1 very sad indeed. i got my start in nebula from nebula-programs dot com and by buying all of the AITB EQs. i couldn't believe my ears. AITB will be missed.

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Post by emilieitor » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:52 pm

we no longer consider ourselves able to spend as much time and energy on the project as it requires and deserves.

In developing our libraries we have always been driven by passion and vision rather than by financial profit. We strongly believe that neither we nor you would profit from a half-hearted AITB service. That's why we have decided to give up AITB by August 28, 2013.
Ok, you don´t continue making more libraries, but I don´t understand the reason because the page is deleted and it don´t let buy already existing products and lose money with this way, in addition to Nebula community won´t have the opportunity to enjoy the best Nebula reverbs and the only existing Nebula libraries of certain hardware (M****y Massive Passive, ...).

So my message is clear: analoginthebox please come back!!!

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Post by garyk_123 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:43 am

I'm sure the decision was not easy but carefully thought through, so I for one will leave it at that, but I was wondering about whether RJ or Giancarlo might look into licensing mmp for the upcoming nvc and or aqua technologies?

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Post by RJHollins » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:40 am

garyk_123 wrote:I'm sure the decision was not easy but carefully thought through, so I for one will leave it at that, but I was wondering about whether RJ or Giancarlo might look into licensing mmp for the upcoming nvc and or aqua technologies?
On so many fronts, this is sad news for the entire Nebula community.

If AITB is not able to return, then my second hope would be some type of transfer to another Dev/distributor. Even AA might consider some type of purchase or hosting.

I'm just second guessing this whole situation ... most everyday, new Nebula members asking for authorization ... the AITB libraries [already created] are a goto source.

Its been only a short while since we all received the news ... given some time forward, lets hope that something positive can still be realized.

As to the NVC-MP controller ... regardless of what happens, I still plan its release. But it is going to first get a major overhaul to bring it in line with the new features that are in the latest NVC. [I'll post that in my thread so not to deflect here.
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