Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release UPDATE 27/02/14

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Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release UPDATE 27/02/14

Post by Tim Petherick » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:17 pm

Hello,

This is the first part of a two part release of the cal dl1656.This is the peak limiter side of the unit.

This essentially is a program dependant limiter. I had to change a few things in order to get it to work like the hardware. I don't think there are many compressors or limiters that have achieved this before, that is the slow release at low gain reduction.

Sampled with lucid and mytek convertors at 44.1, 48 , 88.2 , 96

Sampled in stereo.Mono presets are in the pack too.

Originally I was going to sample the germanuim compressor, this will come later. This unit is super clean for analog, if you want clean limiting this is a good example of that. The unit has a very nice two stage capacitor release function with allows better musicality at longer release times (taking a look inside the unit,they covered the release part of the circuit in this plastic gloop, I guess at the time they thought they were on to something with the release function that they needed to keep it a secret) . However this proved very hard to capture because its so program dependent. So came up with a way to get similar results to the unit but will never be exact on slow release settings as the hardware

new update:27/02/14

dry/through for parallel compression,

improved metering

more gain reduction

Please note this is a non backward compatible update and is for 1.3.600 and above please backup your original n2p's.


N2p's below

on use , keep buffer to 512 or above (512 is best) if possible and master page ahead to 2.0ms

http://www.timpetherick.co.uk/cal-dl165 ... orlimiter/
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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by SWAN » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:27 pm

How fast is the attack on this? What sorts of uses? Im not familiar with the unit...thanks!
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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by Mplay » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:46 pm

I just gave it a quick spin. The attack fast and non adjustable. It's not aggressive but it does do very transparent level control. Very nice release Tim!

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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by Tim Petherick » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:34 pm

Yes , overall it's very transparent. My mytek convertors really helped to get the cleaness of the unit right. It's not like a plugin clean,its dimensional and transparent.

No attack on the unit for the limiter.

The compressor has attack switch but both attack modes are very fast. This will be included in the next release, Probably interpolated to cut down on presets.

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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by cps418 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:46 pm

no demo?

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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by Tim Petherick » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:06 am

No demo for the limiter but for the musical compression side of the unit I will do a demo.
cps418 wrote:no demo?

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Post by richie43 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:24 am

cps418 wrote:no demo?
Are you asking for an audio demo to hear what it does, or a feature-limited demo preset?
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Post by vicnestE » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:15 am

Audio demo (before/after) to show how transparent it is please.

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Post by Tim Petherick » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:31 am

Ok I'll make a audio demo. But I'm not around my computer till tomorrow.

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Post by cps418 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:01 pm

I was asking for a functional demo. When something is transparent, an audio demo tells you nothing.

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Post by richie43 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:56 pm

cps418 wrote:I was asking for a functional demo. When something is transparent, an audio demo tells you nothing.
With all due respect, I think that it is friendly when a dev offers a demo version of a program, but I would not let it stop me from buying from them, especially when their prices are so gosh-darned reasonable. I feel that the time and effort that goes into them making a separate plugin then needs to be compensated by them raising their prices on the full versions so that they are not working for free. Can you imagine a dev like Henry, who almost gives his presets away, was also expected to provide us with a free version (which sometimes needs to be reconfigured, it is it's own product)?
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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by Tim Petherick » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:16 pm

I would love to offer a demo. However, for this one I can't think of a way to do it. Just because its simple in its function, a small pack of the final product and doing lower quality demo would not give you the idea of the unit.

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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by cps418 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:13 am

Richie please do not make me sound ungreatfull, other devs. Have offered demos in the past, so I do not think it is out of line for me to ask for a demo. Raise the price because of a demo sounds out there. As for tim, I do respect your response. If something is so simple a demo would equal giving it away for free.

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Post by richie43 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:32 am

cps418 wrote:Richie please do not make me sound ungreatfull, other devs. Have offered demos in the past, so I do not think it is out of line for me to ask for a demo. Raise the price because of a demo sounds out there. As for tim, I do respect your response. If something is so simple a demo would equal giving it away for free.
I was not making you out to be anything, so I apologize for coming off that way. I test for many of the devs, and am in pretty involved communication with them when testing is going on. I can tell you confidently that, as I said, the devs that do offer demo programs are doing so by their own choice for whatever reasons that they have to do so, but it still is compiling a separate plugin, which takes time (which translates into money). I only know of one or 2 that are not slightly raising prices to justify this extra work, especially because none of them are making that much from Nebula preset sales anyway. Yes, that is their choice and it is nice of them. All I am saying is that if a dev makes the decision not to provide a free demo, then I am hoping that people understand why (because perhaps that they have decided that they can not justify the time and effort required to provide a free product) and respect that. Again, I apologize if you felt like I was attacking you, because I am not.
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Re: Cal Dl1656 vca Limiter release

Post by Owen » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:16 am

Tim,

I think one of the challenges here is that this unit isn't particularly well known from what I can see. Some audio demos are probably required. I've just done some brief searching and it's hard to tell what the real device does to a signal, the few comments that can be found suggest the hardware provides relatively "transparent" compression with some suggestion that it sounds a bit "like old N**e" (whatever that might mean!?).

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