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a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by Animus » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:19 am

Sunset Chamber (default) and Amsterdam Hall (modified 4.3 sec tail)


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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by lordnielson » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:09 am

Great, thanks. How do they compare to the original ?

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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by Animus » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:46 am

Once the wet levels were matched they sounded really close to me, close enough to use as temps in the composing stage at least and maybe I will render with the real thing in the final mix. The real thing is maybe a bit more "enveloping". But I really had to pay close attention to tell a difference.

The really wet long tail stuff seems to match better with Nebula. I've been having more issues with the shorter dryer room stuff with the Bricasti.

Let me know what you think.

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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by dream » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:19 am

I've downloaded these two preset. They sound incredible.

At this point I'm looking forward to see the new release, that one Henry and Michael are working on.

Did you have any problem (except the rooms), Animus, to sampling the Bricasti? If I'm not wrong they are saying it's not easy. I don't know how close we are the the real thing but the sound of those two preset is really full, wonderful.

I'm trying them on a snare, right now, they sound just right.

Great job. :) Are you planning to make any other presets? :)

Thanks a lot!
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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by Andrums » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:45 am

Bad news,its 44.1kHz presets

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Post by enriquesilveti » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:41 pm

Can you try offline sampling in true stereo mode and then replay it in Nebula using 2 instances?
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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by yr » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:49 pm

Thank you for the Presets, It's great having 44.1kHz M7 presets.

I've had a quick listen comparing the sunset preset to the samplicity IR (mono to stereo). I think that the Nebula version sounds more "alive" (which is good) but also a bit grainy. For some reason, the Nebula reverb seems less solid and less natural. I've had the same experience with reverbs I sampled myself and compared to the source.

What does seem to help is switching the Env type from RMS 17 to EVF (EDIT/More/EVFS). It sounds smoother and better to my ears. I wonder if it's closer to the M7..
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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by vicnestE » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:44 pm

yr wrote:Thank you for the Presets, It's great having 44.1kHz M7 presets.

I've had a quick listen comparing the sunset preset to the samplicity IR (mono to stereo). I think that the Nebula version sounds more "alive" (which is good) but also a bit grainy. For some reason, the Nebula reverb seems less solid and less natural. I've had the same experience with reverbs I sampled myself and compared to the source.

What does seem to help is switching the Env type from RMS 17 to EVF (EDIT/More/EVFS). It sounds smoother and better to my ears. I wonder if it's closer to the M7..
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Timed reverb would help for off-line rendering.
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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by lordnielson » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:38 pm

Just compared to impulse responses in Logics "Space Designer" (can't remember who did them) and to me there is no comparison. The Animus/Nebula version is infinitely more alive and 3d.

Makes me realise why I never used those impulse responses.

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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by Animus » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:00 pm

thanks guys.

I only did 44.1kHz because that's what I work in all the time.

I have the Samplicity irs and they sound nice but when I got the real M7 I realized they weren't accurate in terms of sound. The ir's are really bright compared to the real unit, at least in my experience.

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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by Animus » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:06 pm

dream wrote:I've downloaded these two preset. They sound incredible.

At this point I'm looking forward to see the new release, that one Henry and Michael are working on.

Did you have any problem (except the rooms), Animus, to sampling the Bricasti? If I'm not wrong they are saying it's not easy. I don't know how close we are the the real thing but the sound of those two preset is really full, wonderful.

I'm trying them on a snare, right now, they sound just right.

Great job. :) Are you planning to make any other presets? :)


I can do one of the plates and put it up for you guys.
Thanks a lot!

THey sounded pretty damn close to me but I might not have good of ears as some. I did have some issues sampling the smaller room stuff so maybe that's what Olonga was talking about.

I've done some of the presets I use the most personally but I am sure Olonga and Michael have done a much better job †han I. This was seriously †he first time I tried NAT sampling so I am very inexperienced. I didn't realize before it took about 2 hours to sample one preset! wow

I can do one of the plates and put it up for you guys.
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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by Animus » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:14 pm

enriquesilveti wrote:Can you try offline sampling in true stereo mode and then replay it in Nebula using 2 instances?


Would it be possible to update Nebula to be able to do true stereo?

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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by dream » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:43 pm

You did a pretty good damn job!
To my ear those presets are really rich and full of harmonics.
Animus wrote: I can do one of the plates and put it up for you guys.
It'll be great!

At which reverb length did you start to find problems with the sampling process? You said room? So 0,7 second and less?
What about a couple of preset 1 second or 2 seconds long?
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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by lordnielson » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:44 pm

Animus wrote: I can do one of the plates and put it up for you guys.
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Re: a couple Bricasti M7 presets

Post by Animus » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:49 pm

dream wrote:You did a pretty good damn job!
To my ear those presets are really rich and full of harmonics.
Animus wrote: I can do one of the plates and put it up for you guys.
It'll be great!

At which reverb length did you start to find problems with the sampling process? You said room? So 0,7 second and less?
What about a couple of preset 1 second or 2 seconds long?

I did Studio A Close and Far which are both under a second. There was something funny about them after I sampled them. THey were far less enveloping as the original and when running a sine wave (I do that to level match) I get this "motor boat" clicking sound.

I will try some plates next which are around 1 to 2 secs.

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