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Nebula 3 Pro For Sale

Post by HIFIDELITY » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:08 am

Nebula 3 Pro=£125 will be £89 plus paypal fees.......From Aninloginthebox- Mammoth Eq(Massive Passive)=£13-Fate EQ(N**e 1073)=£13-Doc Fear EQ(D.W Fearn)=£11 and APE EQ(A*I 550B EQ+A*I 512 Pre-amp)£10........ Alexb=Classic Logic Console(S*L 40O0+)£35-PCS(Pre-amp suite with some of the best pre-amps ever made! From Rare,Vintage to Modern Total 39 both Solid State Tube. this is just amazing more colour than you could ever imagine! just check out the pdf on Alexb Site)£18- VMQ Mastering EQ(Vintage Teldec/N*****n EQ£18+The Expansion pack which costs£18.......Signaltonoize=Moog 4Pole Low Pass Filter£7- Vintage Iron U10 £5(A Sampled Vintage UTC Transformer used in many Analog Designs inc used in many classic analog designs. (Example vintage U*******l A***o). They are a large part of analog sound & character. They modify frequency/transient response & add mild saturation.Last but not least,rtyhminminds new Strip 76 Compressor,So thats the lot,i must say every program and nebula is in a class of its own,All the programs have that Analog magic! Now to the nitty gritty MONEY! Well everything new comes to £250! and i need £180 To pay a bill,so with that in mind i would consider £150 or near offer? For Everything,including Nebula 3 Pro. So let me know What you think and hopfuly we can do a deal? Kind Regards Jay p.s Everything is cleared with Giancarlo and the Lirary Devs p.ss PM Me if your intrested

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Post by AlexB » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:36 am

I'm sorry but you can't resell the AlexB libraries as the End User License Agreement says (user manual and now on the website also).
The customer purchases the right to license the use of the programs, not the actual ownership of a copy of the program. So it is illegal and no support, upgrades or discount for the "new" purchaser.

People probably forgot that we are single person developer, and not big companies. We try to give the lowest possible price confiding in the sales to be able to develop new programs.

Only to be clear.

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Post by elam » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:14 am

I understand you Alessandro.Every 3rd party dev. is free to have his/her own policy.

Maybe you should have told him that when he asked you a couple of days ago.

Anyway ...

... and sometimes people can bend their rules .

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Post by jazzhobby » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:33 am

Simple solution is for AlexB to buy the license back from him.

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Post by richie43 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:39 am

jazzhobby wrote:Simple solution is for AlexB to buy the license back from him.
Good luck with that. I think Alex feels like he will lose business if someone buys from another user instead of him, so if Alex buys it back, it's like a double whammy; he actually pays out for it. I think the simplest solution with the least amount of friction, if I were in Alex's position, would be to take a small risk and turn my head, let the guy sell the library to bail himself out financially. With the act of kindness I would retain the persons trust in me and when he is ready to start repurchasing Nebula libraries, he will buy from me again. Alex makes awesome stuff, and I imagine that HIFIDELITY will be rebuilding his Nebula arsenal as soon as he is able. The sound is so good, it is hard to go back to non-Nebula digital audio after your ears have been spoiled so much.
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Post by AlexB » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:39 pm

elam wrote:I understand you Alessandro.Every 3rd party dev. is free to have his/her own policy.

Maybe you should have told him that when he asked you a couple of days ago.

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... and sometimes people can bend their rules .
He has not asked to me... And I haven't time to read the forum regularly (this is well known)
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Post by HIFIDELITY » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:28 pm

AlexB wrote:
elam wrote:I understand you Alessandro.Every 3rd party dev. is free to have his/her own policy.

Maybe you should have told him that when he asked you a couple of days ago.

Anyway ...

... and sometimes people can bend their rules .
He has not asked to me... And I haven't time to read the forum regularly (this is well known)
Hi Alex, I emailed you four times,not on the forum but your personal email! I contacted EVERY developer and Giancarlo because i wanted everything to be above board and ok with all,if you check the off topic forum you will see i asked about selling weeks ago and was advised to get permission from all devs,So thats what i done,and everyone of them was so pleasant and gave there blessing because i am in such financial difficulties! but you never relied to any of my emails Alex and i was getting desperate! So I knew if i put it up on the forum you would see and hoped you would pm me and then i could ask your permission! I was not doing anything behind your back and there no dodgy stuff going on! Its just situations change and because mine has changed so much i cannot keep up music as a hobby any longer. I even emailed you about 5 days ago to ask about my pro versions of your programs just to get your attention,but you still never replied(please check) i really didnt want to do it over the forum in public! But Alex,Could i PLEASE sell on your libraries? It would help me so much. Many Thanks and Kind Regards Jay

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Post by HIFIDELITY » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:25 pm

Hi,Alex could you please reply to my last post?,its just i have a lot of people that want to buy my Nebula+libs but myself and the potential buyers feel a bit funny going ahead with any sale after your post! I can understand if i never tried to contact you and ask your permission,but i truly did! So please either way, can you please let me know where i stand? I would appreciate it very much,because as i have said before regarding the selling of my music software,if i do not pay my rent and phone bill at the end of the month,i face eviction! and this is no lie,ask any Developer and they will confirm my situation! Many Thanks Jay

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Post by HIFIDELITY » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:00 pm

Sorry one last post,Alex could you please check the Off Topic Forum under,Can i sell Nebula,and check my posts,what they say and what date they were posted! Hopefully you will then understand i was trying my hardest to contact you! Thanks Jay

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Post by Mplay » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:30 am

AlexB wrote:I'm sorry but you can't resell the AlexB libraries as the End User License Agreement says (user manual and now on the website also).
The customer purchases the right to license the use of the programs, not the actual ownership of a copy of the program. So it is illegal and no support, upgrades or discount for the "new" purchaser.

People probably forgot that we are single person developer, and not big companies. We try to give the lowest possible price confiding in the sales to be able to develop new programs.

Only to be clear.

Alex
I'm not picking sides, but would like to add that EULA's are looking to become obsolete under the upcomming directive european consumer rights (sec 2008/614)

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Post by misterambient » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:40 pm

Mplay wrote:
AlexB wrote:I'm sorry but you can't resell the AlexB libraries as the End User License Agreement says (user manual and now on the website also).
The customer purchases the right to license the use of the programs, not the actual ownership of a copy of the program. So it is illegal and no support, upgrades or discount for the "new" purchaser.

People probably forgot that we are single person developer, and not big companies. We try to give the lowest possible price confiding in the sales to be able to develop new programs.

Only to be clear.

Alex
I'm not picking sides, but would like to add that EULA's are looking to become obsolete under the upcomming directive european consumer rights (sec 2008/614)

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Amice,

Of course this is an interesting legal topic which is absolutely open for academic debate, however, I would like to add that for now,

1. the proposed consumer rights directive hasn't been implemented yet;

2. it will, if and when implemented in its current form, have ''immediate effect'': it won't be retroactive law - so no effect on old cases casu quo signed / click and accept / web-wrap agreements before the implementation of the directive;

3. the agreement between consumer H and developer AlexB stands as it is and is enforceable in court: H committed himself to AlexB's EULA / Terms Of Service;

4. offering this sofware on a public forum without AlexB's consent could set an undesired precedent and is a direct violation of AlexB's EULA / Terms Of Service.

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Post by richie43 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:44 pm

Wow.I completely understand both sides. I am self employed and deal with the concepts of time+labor=money and food every day. But I also am one human on a big planet trying to coexist with a billion other humans on the same planet in positive and supportive manner. I have gladly sacrificed a penny for my "brother or sister" many times and eventually reaped rewards 100 times my sacrifice. That universal law of Karma, regardless of a persons religious or philosophical affiliations, is unavoidable and powerful. Or to sum this up by repeating the beginning of the post....
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Post by Mplay » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:41 pm

@misterambient:

Amice,

I was only pointing out these kinds of eula could become obsolete when the directive is adopted in it's current form. I should have been more clear and I should have started a new topic, rather then posting in this thread. I wasnt in any way trying to suggest violating any eula's.

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Post by yr » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:24 pm

We can argue about what is legal, moral and ethical all day long, but it's not going to help anyone. This is an exceptional situation, and sometimes exceptions need to be made.
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Post by richie43 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:54 pm

yr wrote:We can argue about what is legal, moral and ethical all day long, but it's not going to help anyone. This is an exceptional situation, and sometimes exceptions need to be made.
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I wasn't trying to argue any of those angles. I was actually encouraging all parties towards a quick and friendly resolution. Keep it fair and humane, for both sides.
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