Hi guys , new to Nebula - Mastering options

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Hi guys , new to Nebula - Mastering options

Post by ged333 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:45 pm

I've been using neb 3 free for a few weeks and I am loving it - I honestly feel sorry for my old plugins now...

I am going to be purchasing neb 3 pro very soon and would like some opinions on the best nebula compressors for mastering purposes,
I am looking for thick sounding / transient smoothing compression

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Post by cps418 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:45 am

ged333 wrote:I've been using neb 3 free for a few weeks and I am loving it - I honestly feel sorry for my old plugins now...

I am going to be purchasing neb 3 pro very soon and would like some opinions on the best nebula compressors for mastering purposes,
I am looking for thick sounding / transient smoothing compression
I think after you purchase the neb pro, and buy some 3rd. party presets you'll have a better foundation with that question.

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Post by biomuse » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:28 am

I think the rhythminmind varimu compressor is nice on the 2 bus. I haven't tried alexb's white N**e comp but some like that for the same purpose.

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Post by faun2500 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:05 am

Obviously alex b newman mastering console and eq.

And then the massive passive for more options with eq.

DME1968 for keeping the bass.
Varimu for adding some sheen. (not both compressors at the same time though but you need more than one compressor for mastering)

R2R and tapebooster for gaining that volume.
Just some stuff I find excellent for mastering.
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Post by ged333 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:17 pm

Thanks for the replies,
does the Vari-mu comp "soften" the low end at all??

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Post by highvoltage » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:23 pm

i had some good luck with the Fate compressor VERY lightly on the master. It adds (sometimes even too much) punch and rounds the transients nicely.

Alexb's 4K Bus compressor also very good (and surprisingly transparent compared to plugin S*L's)on master channel.

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Post by cps418 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:48 pm

ged333 wrote:Thanks for the replies,
does the Vari-mu comp "soften" the low end at all??
I think the DME1968 is good at making the low end fluffy. I also say again, when you get the pro neb version and start mixing, you may find your transient request start to switch. Transient definitions with the other plugs differ from the neb definition. Like analog distortion vs. digital distortion, same word, but big difference. Distortion

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Post by faun2500 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:54 pm

ged333 wrote:Thanks for the replies,
does the Vari-mu comp "soften" the low end at all??
Mmmm, I'm not sure what you mean by soften?

For me the most noticeable thing about the vari-mu is the sheen/sparkle. Basically, its a bit like a tilt eq. Not to dramatic but can bring a dull/flat mix to life.

I think because of this it might soften the bass, but from bass-boost eq after it can restore that.
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Post by cps418 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:16 pm

faun2500 wrote:
ged333 wrote:Thanks for the replies,
does the Vari-mu comp "soften" the low end at all??
Mmmm, I'm not sure what you mean by soften?

For me the most noticeable thing about the vari-mu is the sheen/sparkle. Basically, its a bit like a tilt eq. Not to dramatic but can bring a dull/flat mix to life.

I think because of this it might soften the bass, but from bass-boost eq after it can restore that.
I don't think it softens the bass I think it may stiffen the bass, as well as cut it through the mix a bit. It crystallizes the whole mix. In mastering.

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Post by faun2500 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:01 pm

Soften, stiffen, fluffy, crystallize????!!!! :shock:

When I make music only the words: hard; heavy; aggressive; loud; banging; deep; hard and heavy are used! :twisted:





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Post by faun2500 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:03 pm

highvoltage wrote:i had some good luck with the Fate compressor VERY lightly on the master. It adds (sometimes even too much) punch and rounds the transients nicely.

Alexb's 4K Bus compressor also very good (and surprisingly transparent compared to plugin S*L's)on master channel.
I have also used the fate before (very nice program).

I usally have 4k on the bus for my own tunes and then use another mastering compressor if its needed. Works well i think.
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Post by cps418 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:43 pm

You know, you don't have to jump ahead of yourself to mastering if your looking for something soft, or smooth sounding. In your mixing stage you could actually achieve a smooth transient sound. I think the mammoth eq is good for that. It has a very silky sound to it. and then I think you could use the vmu comp to or the german eqs to dial in some sheen (transients) to your liking.

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Post by ged333 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:59 pm

Well just to let you guys know I've been doing digital mastering for bands for the last 8 years
(all digital, artists have had airplay here in the UK)
but am really impressed with the sound of the free Nebula EQ/comps...
I am looking to update my master chain to get a more fat analog sound after using M****y/UA in my local studio ( and hearing the shocking difference)

Mastering a 100% digital mix with digital plugins really has left me cold now - there is no euphonic sound - no sound that is pleasing to the ear -
that is the reason the big mastering houses still use Analog gear

So far, Nebula free has, to my ears reached that sound 99.9%
though I know Nebula 3 pro would be my ideal purchase
followed by AlexB Pultec / GMC / and Fate comp/Dme68
not too sure about the Varimu - I don't want to add presence to a digital mix if I can help it.

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Post by mertayy » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:22 am

ged333 wrote:Well just to let you guys know I've been doing digital mastering for bands for the last 8 years
(all digital, artists have had airplay here in the UK)
but am really impressed with the sound of the free Nebula EQ/comps...
I am looking to update my master chain to get a more fat analog sound after using M****y/UA in my local studio ( and hearing the shocking difference)

Mastering a 100% digital mix with digital plugins really has left me cold now - there is no euphonic sound - no sound that is pleasing to the ear -
that is the reason the big mastering houses still use Analog gear

So far, Nebula free has, to my ears reached that sound 99.9%
though I know Nebula 3 pro would be my ideal purchase
followed by AlexB Pultec / GMC / and Fate comp/Dme68
not too sure about the Varimu - I don't want to add presence to a digital mix if I can help it.

Besides the "ultra tech." sterile sounding plug-ins, for me Nebula was the first to nail the eq sound in plug-in world, specially for mastering. I'm pretty sure once you get really into Nebula, you'll appreciate the 3.rd part eq's more and more (in time I have deleted the free ones and don't use them anymore).

But for ITB comp.s specially for mastering (besides sterile ones, which I use very rare), the plug-in world today is IMO far from being close to analog comp.s.

Due to some reasons I couldn't test the new comp.s for mastering yet but I'm very curious. Before these releases when needed I placed subtle colored presets (sometimes even preamp emulations) and a digital comp. after that, wasn't extremely satisfying but worked good enough.

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Post by cps418 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:42 am

ged333 wrote:Well just to let you guys know I've been doing digital mastering for bands for the last 8 years
(all digital, artists have had airplay here in the UK)
but am really impressed with the sound of the free Nebula EQ/comps...
I am looking to update my master chain to get a more fat analog sound after using M****y/UA in my local studio ( and hearing the shocking difference)

Mastering a 100% digital mix with digital plugins really has left me cold now - there is no euphonic sound - no sound that is pleasing to the ear -
that is the reason the big mastering houses still use Analog gear

So far, Nebula free has, to my ears reached that sound 99.9%
though I know Nebula 3 pro would be my ideal purchase
followed by AlexB Pultec / GMC / and Fate comp/Dme68
not too sure about the Varimu - I don't want to add presence to a digital mix if I can help it.
If you are mastering from that starting point, then, I think even more than ever mammoth is the way to go. You truly don't want to add any neb sheen to a finished digital sheen. Maybe neb character, and body. In fact, "M****y",(mammoth) is a top mastering eq of todays "digital mixes".

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