CDSoundMaster "The Globe Console" Now Available!!!

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CDSoundMaster "The Globe Console" Now Available!!!

Post by cdsoundmaster » Fri May 07, 2010 6:36 pm

We are pleased to present the first library from our new CDSoundMaster Classic Consoles Series!

Please visit here for more information:
http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/software.html

Manual in Adobe Acrobat format:
http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/globemanual.pdf

Audio Samples:
http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/globeaudio.html

Graphs
http://cdsoundmaster.com/site/globegraphs.html

(I'll post harmonics as well)

Thanks!
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Post by futur2 » Fri May 07, 2010 6:52 pm

hi michael, this one looks and sounds great! one question, does it require the latest nebula version? some people reported instabilites. don't want to riks these. i'm on 1.3.393 atm, will globe work?

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Post by cdsoundmaster » Fri May 07, 2010 6:57 pm

Hi!
I will check with Giancarlo to make sure. I believe it will be fine. As long as it is after the sample rate fix it should not be any trouble.
futur2 wrote:hi michael, this one looks and sounds great! one question, does it require the latest nebula version? some people reported instabilites. don't want to riks these. i'm on 1.3.393 atm, will globe work?

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Post by farjedi » Fri May 07, 2010 8:35 pm

Great work Michael, I've been using them today and I really like it, it really does improve the tone of audio going thru it, quite dramatically in some cases.
The programs don't minimize the stereo field at all, which is of course great.
Thanks for another usefull library..cheers

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Post by ErotiCore SteNch » Sat May 08, 2010 11:45 am

any1 knows if this also works in nebula 3 bundle?

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Post by david1103 » Sat May 08, 2010 3:23 pm

sounds awesome... what console is it!? :)

i was very interested in:

"For those looking for the maximum in analog authenticity and using maximum resources, we recommend operating the console in full emulated analog mode, turning the DAW into a virtual studio as originally inspired in the "RASS" library. We highly recommend placing an instance like the "GLD-EQIN-ALL-K11" on your channel, followed by an instance of R2R (and TB+ if extra tape volume/saturation is desired) followed by a second instance of "GLD-EQIN-ALL-K11". This gives you the entire effect of sending your sound through the console channel direct out, to the tape for recording, and back to the console for mixing."

do you have an example of a mix totally without this, and then with it on all the channels as described above? i would love to hear this in action, esp with a mix using electronic instruments.

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Post by vicnestE » Sat May 08, 2010 4:21 pm

Just bought it and the curve/harmonics of the GLD-EQIN-ALL is here under 44KHz. Somewhat differs from the one's on Michael's graph section.

I am trying to render a song through it for comparison, but I'm not sure what settings should I use in the "Processing gain" of nebula renderer. So I left it un-checked.
Maybe Michael could give us some guide. :lol:

The NOEQ version of GLD has more harmonics to my eye since the scale is not the same in the two harmonic charts.

It's a very colorful console compared to MBCPro where MBCPro's harmonic distortion figure chould be found on Alex's site. But I had nice experiences with MBCPro with rock/grunge songs.

I could post audio examples once I finish the render.
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Post by david1103 » Sat May 08, 2010 6:03 pm

please do post some audio examples, that would be great. if possible with nothing, then with the new globe console added on as many channels as possible.

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Post by vicnestE » Sat May 08, 2010 6:14 pm

It's a song called "Those Left" from my incoming album "Storyteller". This is a temp draft mix in progress.
I used the instrumental intro(quiet part), chorus2 (loud part), and solo for comparison.
The full length is about 7:30, so you must forgive me for not providing the best fair case by processing all
source audios using individual consoles.
I assumed CLC will be better for this kind of music compared to MBC since I only had 2 consoles from AlexB

before I purchased GL.

Even only the buses and master channel were processed with different consoles, the sound characteristics is quite different.

1. Source audio:
All audios WERE rendered with AlexB's CLC Line Input at -18dB and then R2R REV15-499-6b at -6dB,
and then 18 buses are bounced to 24bit audio files.


2. Buses rendering: 24bit files into Nebula Rendered and generate 32bit bus audios
Clean version:
no other programs

CLC version:
Bus through CLC Bus Clean, Effect through CLC SNR at -18dB

GL version:
all buses/effects through CCC GLM-NOEQ-ALL-K11 with no processing gain change

3. Master section:
The 32bit bus audios were summed in Sonar8 and render internally at 64bit into 24bit file for final
loudness adjustment and dithered (no limiter triggered) with Ozone4 into 16bit file.
no other effects were added except gain changes to achieve almost the same RMS loudness.

Clean version:
nothing but adjust to the same gain

CLC version:
CLC MBC: the loudest part hits -15~-18dB


GL version:
GLM-NOEQ-ALL-K11: I found it's meter is weird, anyway, I avoided any clipping and I'm not sure how hard I hit it.
The loudest part hit around -32dB for input and -15dB for output.



I am quite happy I bought the globe console, the air is very pleasing. And I think the "combined color" is useful in some way. :lol:

Feel free to comment.
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Post by vicnestE » Sat May 08, 2010 6:20 pm

david1103 wrote:please do post some audio examples, that would be great. if possible with nothing, then with the new globe console added on as many channels as possible.
Sorry, my current demos are around 18 buses at most but not played at the same time.

Anyway I think the warmth and air are the selling points of the globe console.

Althouth I might add a tape program from R2R for the CLC demo to bring out some more air and reduce rumble.

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Post by cdsoundmaster » Sat May 08, 2010 7:36 pm

I did check with "G" and it should work fine with the Neb3 Bundle.
ErotiCore SteNch wrote:any1 knows if this also works in nebula 3 bundle?

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Post by cdsoundmaster » Sat May 08, 2010 7:44 pm

Hi there!

Yes, the graph for 44.1 only shows the nice high end shape up to 22,050Hz but it continues to over 30kHz. The extreme high frequency non-linearities make some nice changes as well.

Two important things:
Regarding the settings for the Renderer, I don't use the render program so I can't comment on any exact settings. For this release I wanted to make the console series as easily compatible in all ways, so the frequency graph shown here is an example of what to expect only at your highest +0dB peak volume. If you drive a file hard into Neb with a lot of loud steady signal, perhaps you may drop the drive setting a little. But, for more dynamic tracks it is set to load with plenty of character. If using K-system it is still plenty dynamic and plenty of harmonics.
2. Regarding harmonics in different sample rates.
You cannot go on the accuracy of the KLIRR or THD. These are programmed at 96kHz, but the absolute amount of pressure coming into the sample is based upon the actual volume edited. This will change the relationship very slightly from one rate to another, but the shape and relation of the harmonics to each other remains consistent and this is what is important. My recommendation is to not change anything but the loaded rate for your project (leave liquidity attack release all set the same). The harmonics and spectrum and dynamics will work accurately even though visuals change.

I am adding not just spectrum graphs but harmonics to the site soon, and they can be dl'd as well.
vicnestE wrote:Just bought it and the curve/harmonics of the GLD-EQIN-ALL is here under 44KHz. Somewhat differs from the one's on Michael's graph section.

I am trying to render a song through it for comparison, but I'm not sure what settings should I use in the "Processing gain" of nebula renderer. So I left it un-checked.
Maybe Michael could give us some guide. :lol:

The NOEQ version of GLD has more harmonics to my eye since the scale is not the same in the two harmonic charts.

It's a very colorful console compared to MBCPro where MBCPro's harmonic distortion figure chould be found on Alex's site. But I had nice experiences with MBCPro with rock/grunge songs.

I could post audio examples once I finish the render.

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Post by cdsoundmaster » Sat May 08, 2010 7:46 pm

I checked this with Giancarlo as well, and it should be fine with this version without trouble.
futur2 wrote:hi michael, this one looks and sounds great! one question, does it require the latest nebula version? some people reported instabilites. don't want to riks these. i'm on 1.3.393 atm, will globe work?

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Post by TranscendingMusic » Sat May 08, 2010 8:07 pm

Guys, a friendly reminder: use your ears!

I know, I know, but I'm just saying :shock:

Ears to listen
Eyes to confirm/un-confirm
Ears still as final judgment

It's audio after all! 8-)

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Post by futur2 » Sat May 08, 2010 8:35 pm

CDSoundMaster wrote:I checked this with Giancarlo as well, and it should be fine with this version without trouble.
futur2 wrote:hi michael, this one looks and sounds great! one question, does it require the latest nebula version? some people reported instabilites. don't want to riks these. i'm on 1.3.393 atm, will globe work?
thanks, bought!

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