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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by DavideBurattin » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:16 am

Awesome! I haven't well understood just one thing: will be N4 VST 64 bit only or the will be issued a 32 bit version later? :?:
The price explanation is absolutely useful to plan our personal budget before Xmas ;)
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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by DavideBurattin » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:24 am

giancarlo wrote:
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Very nice, I suggest only a "button pressed" and "button released" icon near the FET/OPTO text, it will be more instinctive and fast to chose during a mix session.
Looking forward to try it!
I guess that it's supposed to cover the LA2a and 1176 purpose in the AA arsenal, or am I wrong?

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Post by robschroeder » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:29 am

DavideBurattin wrote:Awesome! I haven't well understood just one thing: will be N4 VST 64 bit only or the will be issued a 32 bit version later? :?:
64bit only!

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by robschroeder » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:34 am

flipnaut wrote:i am interested in what and how fast 3rd party devs can deliver plugins. Any one knows about this topic?
I am sure they will not be able to deliver any plugin as N4 is a plugin itself. So if they can provide anything then it will be a library for N4. But as N4 is full backwards compatible to N3 this should not matter. There is nothing really fancy at the first release of N4 (beside that it is Core 9) which really beats N3 (this will of course change with later releases as G has stated).

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by DavideBurattin » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:53 am

robschroeder wrote:
DavideBurattin wrote:Awesome! I haven't well understood just one thing: will be N4 VST 64 bit only or the will be issued a 32 bit version later? :?:
64bit only!
This is VERY bad :(
The new trend of Steinberg and now AA to cut and no more supporting 32 bit plugins is THE bad news of 2017.

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by ceemusic » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:08 am

  • robschroeder wrote:
    This is VERY bad :(
    The new trend of Steinberg and now AA to cut and no more supporting 32 bit plugins is THE bad news of 2017.
    I'd expect it to be the norm going forward for all companys. 32b will eventually cease to exist, be developed or supported.

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by davidgary73 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:02 am

Glad i did not splurge on BF and may upgrade to N4.
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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by garyk_123 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:08 am

So will N4 Core 9 run existing 3rd party libraries more efficiently CPU wise? That would be the big draw for me, and probably many others, discount or not!

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Post by solarduan » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:22 am

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by giancarlo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:02 am

garyk_123 wrote:So will N4 Core 9 run existing 3rd party libraries more efficiently CPU wise? That would be the big draw for me, and probably many others, discount or not!
No. It will be in the future

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by giancarlo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:05 am

ceemusic wrote:
  • robschroeder wrote:
    This is VERY bad :(
    The new trend of Steinberg and now AA to cut and no more supporting 32 bit plugins is THE bad news of 2017.
    I'd expect it to be the norm going forward for all companys. 32b will eventually cease to exist, be developed or supported.
Exactly
We'll support 32 bits in our acqua line for a while though
But 32 bits is going to die

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by giancarlo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:11 am

robschroeder wrote:
flipnaut wrote:i am interested in what and how fast 3rd party devs can deliver plugins. Any one knows about this topic?
I am sure they will not be able to deliver any plugin as N4 is a plugin itself. So if they can provide anything then it will be a library for N4. But as N4 is full backwards compatible to N3 this should not matter. There is nothing really fancy at the first release of N4 (beside that it is Core 9) which really beats N3 (this will of course change with later releases as G has stated).
The engine is way more efficient
Anyway we are using the new powerness for a better audio quality: rose smokes a lot of software compressors
But as nebula 3 you could tune it in order to get it very light (increasing the program rate, like it is happening in most of nebula libraries). This is an example.
Said that, the new engine IS faster, because new optimizations. It loads faster, it supports dynamic rate, the zero latency engine is debugged and more reliable, multithreading is a bit better, a lot of things are improved

The new preset system is really awesome.
Yes you could maintain the nebula setups workflow with a trick, but you could use the new system and remain inside nebula.
I think the workflow is faster, especially if the preset system of the daw is poor.
You can search a library, add to favourites. We are going to support also vendor tags. The skinning at library level is easy and way more intuitive. And it is automatically delivered from developers, so you install a library and that's all. Rose is a good showcase of the new workflow

This is just the beginning: we'll move all nebula menus outside nebula, making your tuning easy and efficient. We'll add a lot of things: skinning, metering and so on. It will require a bit of time, but the waiting is worth
Actually I'm working on a new networking concept inside n4, it will take things to the next level

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by XanomalieX » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:42 pm

DavideBurattin wrote:
robschroeder wrote:
DavideBurattin wrote:Awesome! I haven't well understood just one thing: will be N4 VST 64 bit only or the will be issued a 32 bit version later? :?:
64bit only!
This is VERY bad :(
The new trend of Steinberg and now AA to cut and no more supporting 32 bit plugins is THE bad news of 2017.
With Auqa and Nebula updates it got better, but Nebula needs soo much RAM, using a 32bit DAW never made any sense with nebula!!
So no real problem here.
Win 10 Cubase i7 2600k 16GB

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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by davidgary73 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:27 pm

giancarlo wrote: if you are a nebula3 server customer the price will be 100
Will the price be different once N4 is out? Or only promo, we get to buy N4 for 100?
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Re: Nebula4, new details

Post by DavideBurattin » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:48 pm

XanomalieX wrote:
DavideBurattin wrote:
With Auqa and Nebula updates it got better, but Nebula needs soo much RAM, using a 32bit DAW never made any sense with nebula!!
So no real problem here.
If you dont have backwards compatibility problems with the old projects, I completely agree.
I always hoped that this moment of transition would be very far... sadly NOW it's the time.
I just bought Cubase Pro 9 and then I will buy N4, but I expect to use them not so quickly...

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