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Re: Something scary again

Post by kindafishy » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:50 pm

Sorry about your lost work :(

Do you know if this affects Cubase only? I use REAPER, and I swear I have rescanned a few times without having any issues.

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Re: Something scary again

Post by THAPRODUCERZ » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:58 pm

What about saving fx chains per channel? It's still 40+ channels but better than per slot.

Sorry, I have been in similar situations before and I tend to safeguard myself at this point because anything could happen, power outages, corrupt files, rescans such as this
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Re: Something scary again

Post by basaristudios » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:59 pm

I personally have experienced it with Cubase and Nebula, i do not
know about other DAWs. Right now i did a RESTORE to like 4 days
before this happened but that did not fixed it, it just caused
me to do a lot more work now as when i was today with updates
and other things on the computer...eh, forget it, i'll get over
it somehow as always. I know opening a Ticket will not fix this.
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Re: Something scary again

Post by basaristudios » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:02 pm

THAPRODUCERZ wrote:What about saving fx chains per channel? It's still 40+ channels but better than per slot.

Sorry, I have been in similar situations before and I tend to safeguard myself at this point because anything could happen, power outages, corrupt files, rescans such as this
You actually just reminded me now that i had one Chain saved
from before for a quick load and i can confirm our worst fears,
look now, Nebula rendered useless again:
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Re: Something scary again

Post by basaristudios » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:04 pm

So basically no, saving Chains with Nebula in it will not help.
Probably the same thing will happen with Presets so both of this
solutions is a BIG NO! To the rest of the users:

When you planing updating Nebula, rescaning plugins or anything
similar to that, EITHER render all your files or WRITE each
setting or at the end you will be screwed, i learnt my lesson.
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Re: Something scary again

Post by RJHollins » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:38 pm

I wonder if a possible naming convention is at cause. Related to this is the 'Magic ID' assigned to Nebula.

Some DAW's use the actual plugin name , while other DAW's and chainers use the ID.

next ... having 32-bit and 64-bit versions of a plugin.

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Re: Something scary again

Post by zabukowski » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:38 pm

The only reason i can think of, is different MAGIC string in Nebula XML file.

If Nebula plugins were saved with one magic string, but now somehow Nebula plugin has different magic string, plugins will not be found any more. Solution is to change XML magic string to the value, used when project was last saved.

Not sure if this will help, but worth trying ...

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Re: Something scary again

Post by basaristudios » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:47 pm

zabukowski wrote:The only reason i can think of, is different MAGIC string in Nebula XML file.

If Nebula plugins were saved with one magic string, but now somehow Nebula plugin has different magic string, plugins will not be found any more. Solution is to change XML magic string to the value, used when project was last saved.

Not sure if this will help, but worth trying ...
I think this will help in the future, not now, help us find the
Magic String...once we update, we take a snapshot of that part
of NebulaXML and next time it happens go the that Strings and
just fix the Value of the new one. I know it has to do something
with the XML file, 100% sure but i never checked to see where.
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Re: Something scary again

Post by zabukowski » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:51 pm

I think the most important thing before updating Nebula to the new version, is saving XML file. You can then simply compare contents of both XML files and find changes.

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Re: Something scary again

Post by basaristudios » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:56 pm

zabukowski wrote:I think the most important thing before updating Nebula to the new version, is saving XML file. You can then simply compare contents of both XML files and find changes.
Yup
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