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Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by cfunck » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:42 pm

Hi guys,
The new Nebula menu is already very nice and handy but I would like to suggest something very simple for the next version of Nebula.

A simple "BACK" and "NEXT" button for selecting programs, just as the Waves plugins. This would make our life much easier when going through Tapes, Guitar amps (for instance Ownhammers multiple positions and mics), Eqs and many other programs.

Would that be possible?

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by enriquesilveti » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:05 pm

Thank you for the suggestion.
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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by futur2 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:50 am

like to have that too :P

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by Cupwise » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:07 am

i'll throw my small suggestion into this thread-
a button or something that only showed you programs of a particular sample rate.
so you could only show the 96k ones, 44k, whatever.

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by faun2500 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:47 am

Gotta' say that the next and back button (or just 2 little arrows) would be the next most helpful thing in my opinion! :P
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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by nino » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:14 am

I'v asked giancarlo to implement this few months ago
but he did only one part of my suggestion:
nino wrote:Re: incredible 1.3.498 on the path (Core3 engine)

by nino » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:43 am
499b works fine here (cubase,xp 32 bit)

G is it possible (in the future) to implement
''previous'' and ''next'' button on the nebulas touchscreen.

And...

When you change presets (while playing) most of the time there is loop stutter wav noise while preset is loading+unloading, so could you program nebula that no sound is produced until preset is fully loaded or even better nebula that is automatically putted in bypass mode until preset is fully loaded.

Stutter is little disturbing while you try to find right preset.

You'v been very busy these days over releasing core3 and thank you for that, this is something which would I like to see in future releases.
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giancarlo wrote:by giancarlo » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:13 am
ok, I added it in version 1.3.499e
Last edited by nino on Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:20 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by giancarlo » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:17 am

programs are ordered by nebula in popup menu using categories and other intricate rules. I prefer to not replicate this logic for a possible "next" button, because it would not be intuitive for most of users (you have program 200 and you jump to 1253), generating a lot of support emails. A more logic behaviour would be getting the next program in its numeric order (201), which is not so straightforward in your case (from a tape you jump to a reverb)

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by nino » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:30 am

Yes you have a point there, but is there a way to have it switched off by default for less advanced users, and to turn on this function if you want to (like when there was a list option).
I find myself trying to find ''next'' button even if it is not there.
And ''next'' in terms of next by library type not by preset number would make my nebula dreams more realistic.

In terms of faster workflow and keeping your listening concentration while changing presets this would be a plus for me.

OR to have a ''previous'' and ''next'' options:
by library, by preset number, by time (future:past) WOW!


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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by RJHollins » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:33 pm

I better understand the 'next/prev' implementation problem.

Idea ?!?

In the preset menu list, might it be possible to
'highlite' the currently loaded preset ?

This might sound trivial, but those of us with 'short term memory' issues would find the 'marker in the list' helpful. :idea:

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by futur2 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:48 pm

if the back/next buttons were limited to just the "Last menu", i think they would still be useful and barely confusing. really no way to implement that?

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by Cupwise » Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:30 pm

the preset list *does* hightlight the currently loaded preset, doesn't it? at least, it puts a checkmark beside it. which is why i don't see what the huge help of 'next/previous' is- you click on the 'last' menu, you glance over, see the checkmark, click just below it, and you are on next preset, it takes like 2 seconds.

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by nino » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:53 pm

Cupwise wrote:the preset list *does* hightlight the currently loaded preset, doesn't it? at least, it puts a checkmark beside it. which is why i don't see what the huge help of 'next/previous' is- you click on the 'last' menu, you glance over, see the checkmark, click just below it, and you are on next preset, it takes like 2 seconds.
Well, if there were prev/next buttons I could close my eyes and just listen to changes (while browsing presets with one click at a time), now I have to click, look, scroll menu, click close my eyes... ups I forgot how last preset sounded...well if preset has fancy name or
was made in 96kHz I might think (see) it sounds better then previous :lol:

or I could stumble upon some great fx solution while clicking next..next which I would normally not even try.

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by futur2 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:13 am

Cupwise wrote:the preset list *does* hightlight the currently loaded preset, doesn't it? at least, it puts a checkmark beside it. which is why i don't see what the huge help of 'next/previous' is- you click on the 'last' menu, you glance over, see the checkmark, click just below it, and you are on next preset, it takes like 2 seconds.
well, like nino pointed out it's two mouse clicks versus one plus some unnecessary mousing ;)

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by Definity » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:06 am

i would like an easy way to organise the preset menu

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Re: Nebula upgrade suggestion

Post by richie43 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:19 am

I think the reality is that Nebula is much more complex than a "normal" plugin, and much better sounding or none of us would bother with the work-flow changes we deal with. I assume that Giancarlo and the other devs do everything that they can to make it as stable, efficient, and convenient as they can within the parameters of what the plugin can and can't do. If you want speed and ease, Nebula is not necessarily the tool. But if you want beautiful audio, then be grateful that this technology exists. As far as I am concerned, "Thanks Acustica!"
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